In modern and late Medieval Christian thought, Lucifer is usually a fallen angel commonly associated with Satan, the embodiment of evil and enemy of God. Lucifer is generally considered, based on the influence of Christian literature and legend, to have been a prominent archangel in heaven (although some contexts say he was a cherub or a seraph), prior to having been motivated by pride to rebel against God. When the angel failed, Lucifer was cast out of heaven, along with a third of the heavenly host, and came to reside in the world.
Lucifer is a Latin word meaning "light-bearer" (from lux, lucis, "light", and ferre, "to bear, bring"), a Roman astrological term for the "Morning Star", the planet Venus. The word Lucifer was the direct translation of the Greek eosphoros ("dawn-bearer"; cf. Greek phosphoros, "light-bearer") used by Jerome in the Vulgate, having mythologically the same meaning as Prometheus who brought fire to humanity. In that passage, Isaiah 14:12, it referred to one of the popular honorific titles of a Babylonian king; however, later interpretations of the text, and the influence of embellishments in works such as Dante's The Divine Comedy and Milton's Paradise Lost, led to the common idea in Christian mythology and folklore that Lucifer was a poetic appellation of Satan.
Satan, from the Hebrew word for "accuser" (Standard Hebrew: שָׂטָן, Satan; Tiberian Hebrew Śāṭān; Koine Greek: Σατανάς, Satanás; Aramaic: סטנא, Saṭänä; Arabic: شيطان, Šayṭān, Ge'ez: ሳይጣን Sāyṭān), is a term with its origins in the Abrahamic faiths which is traditionally applied to an angel. Ha-Satan is the accuser, a member of the divine council, who challenged the religious faith of humans, especially in the books of Job and Zechariah. Religious belief systems other than Judaism relate this term to a demon, a rebellious fallen angel, devil, minor god and idolatry, or as an allegory for evil.
2007-03-06 06:50:50
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answered by Anonymous
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Lucifer fell from grace long before the resurrection of Jesus. His fall is recorded in Isaiah 14:12ff, which is the only place the name Lucifer (from the Latin word for "morning star") appears in the Bible. (See also Ezekiel 28:11-19)
I think you need to understand the casting down of Satan, the name he came to be called by, as a progressive thing. He lost his rightful position in heaven through his rebellion, but is still the "god of this age", although his authority over the ultimate destination of all men was overthrown at the cross of Christ (Colossians 2:14,15),and he lost the keys of death and Hades (hell) (Revelation 1:18); yet he still holds sway over unbelieving men (I John 5:19), and he is presently the "Prince of the Power of the Air" (Ephesians 2:2), but will soon be cast down from this position (Revelation 12:7-12), and only after the Millennial Reign of Christ will he be cast into the Lake of Fire, his final destination. (Revelation 20:10)
2007-03-06 15:07:23
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answered by wefmeister 7
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You have a few things mixed up. Let me tell you whats said in the Biblical manuscripts:
Before Adam and Eve ever came on the scene, there was an earth age (before this one); In that previous age, satan wanted the position of Christ, and so there was a great war.
Satan was defeated, and that was his "fall from grace" as they call it. It was not at the time of the crucification that satan fell.
Okay, now about Eve; first, there is no fruit-eating sin in the manuscripts. But regardless, after the great war I just told of, God brought in this earth age (the second of three) and when you read in Genesis of what they call the "creation" - well, it wasn't the first creation of the earth, it was a refurbishing of the earth for this flesh age, after the war destroyed it.
Satan showed up in the garden, and was actually the "tree of the knowledge of good and evil": Satans purpose for being there was to pollute the pure line of lineage in Eve, where womb-to-womb, down the generations would come the Christ child. Eve did not eat fruit; she had sex with satan, and God told her that He would muliply her conceptions; He did; multiplied by 2, exactly. She was pregnant with twins; one pregancy of two separate fathers;
Abel was Adams son; Cain was satans son;
and the war is on............
Theres quite a bit more; this rabbit hole goes way deep...
If ya don't believe that Cain wasn't adams son, just check out Genesis 5:1 where is listed the complete geneology of Adam; you won't find Cain, because Cain simply was not Adams son.
Anyway, yes, satan has been around for billions of years, just like you and I have been, and just like the billions of years old this earth is.
You can read of all three earth ages in Second Peter.
2007-03-06 15:00:40
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answered by Anonymous
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These characters are not the same in the mythology of the bible.
The serpent in the garden was the personification of temptation. It's actually arguable that he is God himself, providing the temptation to test the people. A close reading of the old testament shows many situations where 'God' and this entity are chatting away, making bets about human behavior. Job is a fine example. If the Bible is parable, and I believe it to be so, there is no reason to separate the many aspects of the Godhead. In the old testament, which is the book most fundamentalists cling to so persistantly, there is no hell, nor is heaven described as an idyll.
Religious people really ought to read their books more closely.
Understand as well that the horned goat man Satan never really existed in the Bible until the 15th Century Italian theosophers injected him into the tale. The goat headed being was a reference to Pan, of course, the main deity of the religion that was being displaced by Christianity.
2007-03-06 14:55:00
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answered by Anonymous
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Interesting question. Many theologians will tell you that "satan" isn't actually even a name, but a title. It means "adversary", and in that way was used to describe an antagonist in the bible. Lucifer was certainly an antagonist in his story, so that would qualify him for the title of satan, as was the snake, but that would make them not necessarily the same being.
2007-03-06 15:05:39
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answered by The Resurrectionist 6
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Are the same person but the word Lucifer is not in the bible you will never going to find that word in a bible, is a Latin word that came after years and means something like "lighty" but the word Satan appears 80 times in the bible.
And by the way he was a Cherub (Ezekiel 28:11-15)
2007-03-06 14:53:21
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answered by Anonymous
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Find the name Lucifer in the BIble for me. You can't. It's not there. The whole Lucifer a fallen angel theory was invented by St. Jerome, and popularized by the poet Milton in Paradise Lost.
Lucifer is neither Hebrew, Aremaic, nor Greek, and thus does not appear in the Bible in its original tongues. It is Latin, and meens Light Carrier. It was the name for the star Venus.
If you use the Vulgate, the Latin translation of the Bible, you will find it. The last time it is used is in Revelation, " Behold I am the first and the last, the beginning and the end, the bright Lucifer." That is spoken by Jesus. In English, it is rendered, "Morning Star."
2007-03-06 14:52:53
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answered by Anonymous
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Lucifer, a name meaning "light bearer", was created by God good and holy, as all things were. He was an angel, abiding in heaven with God. He rebelled against God, becoming evil and acquiring the name "Satan", which is actually more of a title than an actual name. Satan was evil long before the resurrection of Christ, in fact before human beings were created. He suffered permanent defeat at the resurrection of Christ, but that is not when He first became evil.
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2007-03-06 14:52:18
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answered by PaulCyp 7
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I didn't know that, but a Phoenix bird (what other cultures believe is Satan) lives for about 500 years then perishes in fire and falls to its death, then immediately another Phoenix rises from something. Only one Phoenix lives on the earth at one time, but when it dies another immediately is born.
Maybe Jesus killed the current Satan when he died, then he rose and another Satan was born?.
2007-03-06 14:56:01
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answered by Tha Most Shady 3
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Satan and Lucifer are the same
2007-03-06 14:51:06
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answered by BOOKEY 2
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