it doesn't change my belief in the Lord Christ at all, and my faith remains strong.
all it could prove is that Jesus and his family actually existed. he was born a man and died a man, so to me it makes sense that there would be remains.
the difference to me is that Jesus can appear to an earth bound human and be seen, where as God the Father's brilliance is blinding to the human eye.
i watched the show and although it was interesting, they still didn't prove to me that it was actually Christ. i need more proof than names being similar.
what it means for other Christians i don't know--that is something that each of them have to deal with themselves.
2007-03-05 12:00:07
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answered by polgara922 4
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It is merely another hoax, and an attempt to discredit the faith. Not only that, but is based on sloppy research.
Let's establish some genuine facts. The twelve apostles all went to their deaths with the testimony of Jesus died and rose again.
No one will knowingly go to their death for a lie. Yet all of the disciples (except John) went to their deaths proclaiming a risen Christ. The Gospels are eyewitness testimonies.
Since they personally saw Jesus after rising from the dead, and then watched Him ascend to heaven, they had the truth of their convictions tested. And they were tested to death.
Had the whole thing been a lie, do you honestly think they wouldn't have recanted, so their lives would be spared? Seriously, no sane person would, and the eleven of them with the same testimony wouldn't either.
2007-03-05 19:39:29
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answered by Anonymous
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I think he was a man ... a man with a great message. I believe he had a spiritual ascension to heaven and I also believe that like all Jewish men in his time ... he had a wife and family. Remember, Christ did not start Christianity .... he was Jewish; others did that for him. It could very well be the tomb of Christ.
Christianity needs to evolve if it's ever to survive. For it to survive, it needs to shed the restraints that Constantine set in place. Also, it needs to be said that this was not only an Emperor who molded Catholicism to control the masses, but this was a man who denied the people the benefit of ALL the Gospels. By eliminating various gospels, he diminished the role and status of women and created a shelter for some of the more seedy characters in the community. You'd have to be demented to go celibet for the rest of your life, become a masochistic monks who revel in pain or torture helpless human beings all in the name of God. Where is the love?
I think the love died when all those who witnessed Jesus in his lifetime died and left this earth. We've lost the meaning of what it is to be Christian, by denying Christ was a man, we deny our history. So what if the ascension wasn't physical? The meaning and the power behind his message isn't lost. If anything I have greater faith as a Christian in knowing we might have discovered and verified an authentic part of Christianity's finer history.
2007-03-05 21:18:46
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answered by AJD 3
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Oh, great, here we go again with the bone boxes. How many people named "Jesus" do you suppose there were back then? Dozens? Hundreds? I do not think this is the biblical Jesus, if indeed it isn't a complete hoax. The story of Jesus was exactly copied from the story of Mithras and other deities. I am 98% certain that the story was not based on any real person, and that the name Jesus was simply grabbed as being common and easily remembered. I reserve 2% for "maybe."
2007-03-05 19:36:09
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answered by Antique Silver Buttons 5
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It means nothing,this was not the family of Jesus ,1000 were found in that tomb in 1980.Took that long to try to make up a story, some written in Aramaic,some Greek, some Hebrew.I
think if it was a family all should have been at the very very
least in one language.
2007-03-05 19:33:06
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answered by gwhiz1052 7
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1) Nothing is new here: scholars have known
about the ossuaries ever since March of 1980, so
this is old news recycled. The general public
learned when the BBC filmed a documentary on them
in 1996, and the “findings” tanked again.. James
Tabor’s book, The Jesus Dynasty, also made a big
fuss over the Talpiot tombs more recently, and
now James Cameron (The Titanic) and Simcha
Jacobovici have climbed aboard the sensationalist
bandwagon as well. Another book comes out today,
equally as worthless as the previous.
2) All the names – Yeshua (Joshua, Jesus),
Joseph, Maria, Mariamene, Matia, Judah, and Jose
-- are extremely common Jewish names for that
time and place, and thus nearly all scholars
consider that these names are merely
coincidental, as they did from the start. Some
scholars dispute that “Yeshua” is even one of the
names. One out of four Jewish women at that
time, for example, were named Maria. There are
21Yeshuas cited by Josephus, the first-century
Jewish historian, who were important enough to be
recorded by him, with many thousands of others
that never made history. The wondrous
mathematical odds hyped by Jacobovici that these
names must refer to Jesus and his family are
simply playing by numbers and lying by statistics.
3) There is no reason whatever to equate “Mary Magdalene” with “Mariamene,”
as Jacobovici claims. And so what if her DNA is
different from that of “Yeshua” ? That
particular “Mariamme” (as it is usually spelled
today) could indeed have been the wife of that
particular “Yeshua,” who was certainly not Jesus.
4) Why in the world would the “Jesus Family” have
a burial site in Jerusalem, of all places, the
very city that crucified Jesus? Galilee was
their home. In Galilee they could have had such
a family plot, not Judea. Besides all of which,
church tradition and the earliest Christian
historian, Eusebius of Caesarea, are unanimous in
reporting that Mary, the mother of Jesus, died in
Ephesus, where the apostle John, faithful to his
commission from Jesus on the cross, had accompanied her.
5) The “Jesus Family” simply could not have
afforded the large crypt uncovered at Talpiot,
which housed, or could have housed, 200 ossuaries.
6) If this were Jesus’ family burial site, what
is Matthew doing there – if indeed “Matia” is thus to be translated?
7) How come there is no tradition whatever –
Christian, Jewish, or secular -- that any part of
the Holy Family was buried at Jerusalem?
8) Please note the extreme bias of the director
and narrator, Simcha Jacobovici. The man is an
Indiana-Jones-wannabe who oversensationalizes
anything he touches. You may have caught him on
his TV special regarding The Exodus, in which the
man “explained” just about everything that still
needed proving or explaining in the Exodus
account in the Old Testament! It finally became
ludicrous, and now he’s doing it again, though in
reverse: this time attacking the Scriptural
record. – As for James Cameron, how do you
follow the success of The Titanic? Well, with an
even more “titanic” story. He should have known
better, and the television footage of the two
making their drastic statements on Monday,
February 26 was disgusting, and their subsequent
claim that they respected Jesus nauseating.
9) Even Israeli authorities, who – were they
anti-Christian – might have used this “discovery”
to discredit Christianity, did not do so. Quite
the opposite. Joe Zias, for example, for years
the director of the Rockefeller Museum in
Jerusalem, holds Jacobovici’s claims up for scorn
and his documentary as “nonsense.” Those
involved in the project “have no credibility
whatever,” he added. – Amos Kloner, the first
archaeologist to examine the site, said the
conclusions in question fail to hold up by
archaeological standards “but make for profitable
television.” -- William Dever, one of America’s
most prominent archaeologists, said, “This would
be amusing if it didn’t mislead so many people.”
10) Finally, and most importantly, there is no
external literary or historical evidence whatever
that Jesus’ family was interred together in a
common burial place anywhere, let alone
Jerusalem. The evidence, in fact, totally
controverts all this in the case of Jesus: all
four Gospels, the letters of St. Paul, and the
common testimony of the early church state that
Jesus rose from the dead, and did not leave his
bones behind in any ossuary, as the current sensationalists claim.
Bottom line: this is merely naked hype, baseless
sensationalism, and nothing less than a media fraud, “more junk on Jesus.”
2007-03-05 19:31:01
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answered by Anonymous
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As P.T. Barnum of three-ring circus fame was miscredited with saying: "There's a sucker born every minute."
A variety of Jesus conspiracy stories have existed from the beginning, Matt. 28: 11-15; growing from the original; that his body was stolen by the disciples and those closest to him. Not many years after come the conspiracy stories. --He was still alive and never died! Then what happened?
This particular repeat (they take place about once every 40 years) is interesting in that it retains the sex portions** while dumping most of the Holy Grail story.
The Holy Grail story dates back, in something like its present form, to the end of the 12th century. Within 200 years pagan myths were being drawn in to the tales of King Arthur's Court.
The "Christian" version centers around the Cup from the Last Supper and Joseph of Arimathea. When the body of Christ disappears from the tomb Joseph is arrested. The Lord then appears and puts Joseph in charge of the Grail. Joseph winds up in Britian where he founds the first Christian church. You need to do lots of reading to see how this story plays. Who accepts it and who rejects it.
After the growth of the Grail story, with addition of Celtic and Arabic sources, comes another story line in which Joseph, the disciples and those closest to Jesus spirit his body away; Jesus having survived. Remember, when Joseph came to claim the body, Pilot was surprised to hear that Jesus had died so soon.
In this story Jesus and Mary Magdalene set up house keeping and have children. They eventually make their way to France where the royal blood of the Hebrew King, is mixed by marriage with the Merovingian Kings of France, in turn related to King Arthur and other feudal kings of Europe -- except the house of Windsor
Joseph does in fact go to Britian. With him is not the Grail but real royal blood in the veins of the oldest son of Jesus Christ and Mary Magdalene, called Justus.
The blood of Christ would then not be something shed for mankind at Calvary but blood which runs in select nobility and literally in the veins of the Knights Templar, the Crusaders and some noble houses of Scotland, Greece and Italy. This was not a happy thought for the Church of Rome.
The Roman church is credited by some with starting the idea of transubstantiation, the real blood in communion, to counter any possibility of people pledging fealty to the true decendants of Jesus Christ.
Also involved are Maid Marian and Robin Hood. If this is all true the late Princess Di of Great Brition was a descendant of Jesus Christ being in the line of the royal house of Stewart. The throne claims otherwise.
**So give it to Hollywood and Discovery, for a few seconds in time they become two parts of a continuing three ring circus. I don't know the details and don't care. They seem to cut out part of the Grail story but kept the conspiracy and the sex. Just wouldn't sell if they found Jesus by his lonesome. Besides, Antonio Banderas already did that one.
What does all this mean to me. It means that a lot of people have never met Christ in a darkening world. I know it isn't true because I talk to and with Jesus Christ daily.
Now what if I am crazy and the person I am talking to is not Jesus Christ? Well I have peace and joy and for me it really makes no difference. You see I can trace back to the House of Stewart on one side and most likely the Merovingian Kings on the other. Either of three ways the royal blood of Christ runs in my veins.
2007-03-05 22:19:04
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answered by Tommy 6
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Christ rose from the dead appeared to several hundred people, and The disciples took His story to the grave. Maybe one person could take a lie to the grave but 11 of the original twelve took Jesus life story to the grave with them. Most suffered martyrs deaths and did not recant.
Would you die for a lie?
2007-03-05 19:33:57
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answered by timjim 6
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If it was true,it would mean that Christianity is worthless.
However,I'm not worried.After looking at the facts about the discovery,and what professional archaeologists and scholars have to say about the documentary,I'm convinced that it is not His tomb
Care to take a look?
http://www.carm.org/evidence/Jesus_tomb.htm
http://benwitherington.blogspot.com/
2007-03-05 19:30:41
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answered by Serena 5
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as a christian I reject this as yet another attempt to undermine my belief in the divinity of Christ, This tomb could be the tomb of anyone named Jesus. It is not necessarily the tomb of my saviour , whom I believe rose from the dead and ascended to heaven.
2007-03-05 19:31:12
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answered by Anonymous
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