ASBOS dont work! they are a badge of dishonour! all around the UK gangs of nuisance youth prey on estates.So called multiagency are quite obviously not working or we would not have the problems we do. Isnt it about time the police and courts got tougher with these louts and brought in punishments such as litter picking and graffitti cleaning to go alongside the ASBOS which might then make them less attractive status symbols!
2007-03-05 01:22:50 · 20 answers · asked by leopardshaz 5 in Politics & Government ➔ Law Enforcement & Police
The Police do as much as they can but until the Magistrates start handing down sentences that act as a real deterent to these little scrotes they won't see their behaviour for what it is. While the Police and Courts are responsible for enforcing the law why are the parents not held responsible for raising their kids properly?
2007-03-05 01:44:06 · answer #1 · answered by Golf Alpha Nine-seven 3 · 3⤊ 1⤋
Very good points by Foghorn
Nice to see some support and understanding of the Police for a change from some posts.
Perhaps Leopardshaz, you should join the Police as you appear to have the answers to the problem and seem to think it's that easy to sort out a problem that's taken years to deteriorate.
As most answers say, the Police are often powerless, understaffed and not supported by the system.
Longer licencing hours didn't help, re-classifying cannabis was a bad idea, ASBO's are a waste of time, I could go on. What's needed is more severe penalties by the Courts and better education by parents of these yobs. In my experience, most of the parents are the same as the kids, just older and trust me, I'm in a position to know.
2007-03-05 11:15:45 · answer #2 · answered by Ian UK 6 · 3⤊ 0⤋
The problem is not the police - the police simply enforce the law. They do not make the law or punish those who break it. ASBOs work from a police point of view i.e. if an offender breaches an ASBO, he gets arrested and put before the court.
That said, you quite rightly make mention of the 'courts' in your question. It could be said that sentences should be tougher, however the problem is not as simple as that as this involves massive amounts of money. I guarantee a petty criminal sent to prison for a first offence of a minor nature WILL NOT 'reform' and be a model citizen on his release.
The answer - more police, better education, better criminal justice system, more prisons etc. and LOADS more public money. So, shall we increase taxes to fund this??
2007-03-05 01:38:02 · answer #3 · answered by Ben G 2 · 2⤊ 0⤋
This is a can of worms.
Firstly, the Police are doing their best, but are hampered by both a shortage of Officers and by the Criminal Justice system for youths, which is incredibly complicated, very drawn out, and which bends over backwards to stop youth being introduced to the practitioners of serious and/or habitual crime in prisons.
Secondly, boredom is not quite the issue. One could spend zillions on providing youth facilities, but the hard core of youth will find any activity sponsored or encouraged by adults as 'uncool', and will therefore shun it. It is well known that adolescents create their own sub-cultures Youth is beyond childhood and not quite in adulthood, and is therefore stuck in limbo between these two states of existence.
The answer is as follows
Firstly, Government will need to decide on our behalf how society should be. Currently, there is no leadership from government.
The purpose of law, as defined in various law books, is to maintain a safe and tranquil society. Government must make up its mind on this point.
Secondly, if we assume that Government has decided on the course of a 'safe and tranquil' society, then legislation will have to be introduced or revived to ensure that this can be enforced. Loitering used to be an offence - this needs to be an offence again. I'm fifty, five foot eight in hight, I weigh 15 stone, I do weightlifting, am an ex amateur wrestler and have military service to boot, but I feel intimidated by groups of youths hanging about.
Thirdly, the public must support the law, and its enforcement. This does not simply mean calling the police, it means adults setting an example to youth. Therefore, no parties with loud music disturbing the neighbours. No dog poo on the streets. No adult dropping litter. We have all seen the syndrome where everyone's kid is a villain, but one's own offspring is an angel, even when caught red-handed. This must stop.
2007-03-05 05:53:50 · answer #4 · answered by ? 6 · 3⤊ 0⤋
Unfortunately there is so much yobbish behaviour that the Police spend 60-70% of the time chasing round after kids as it is. So at the end of the day it's like a dog chasing it's tail going round in circles not actually getting anywhere. The Police are very limited in what they can do and in a number of cases these kids aren't actually doing anything other than meeting up.
2007-03-05 07:04:03 · answer #5 · answered by Roaming free 5 · 2⤊ 0⤋
Kids think its great to be in the asbo club, but why the police, ??what about the parents, give them an asbo as well for not using parental control.
2007-03-05 06:03:41 · answer #6 · answered by ROBERT M 4 · 4⤊ 0⤋
The courts and government dont back the police.We should have laws like the americans where parents can be done for contributing to the delinquency of a minor and curfews where the kids are taken home and warned along with the parents if it happens again the parents are taken to court.
2007-03-05 05:43:16 · answer #7 · answered by frankturk50 6 · 4⤊ 0⤋
Police are powerless courts a joke, politicians spine less.The responsibility lay with the parents but who is going to teach the parents right from wrong? My solution, I know you are crying out to hear is this.One give the kids something to do when they go out with their friends.Under 15s in by 10pm unless their is a reason ie coming home from the cinemas(if they are with their parents no problem then they can be out till when ever).Under 12s in by 8pm.If the child gets in trouble 3 time they join cadets if they don't go the parents join the army!The 16 to 20 year olds must help out in the community if they have no job or any thing better to do.They could then teach their parents how to behave and right from wrong. Firm but fair as always with Cad.........
2007-03-05 01:44:12 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 4⤊ 1⤋
Define 'nuisance'. A lot of people dislike groups of kids standing around on their street, and so phone the police. But, obviously (and reasonably) enough, there's no law against standing on the street, so there's nothing the police can do.
2007-03-05 01:31:32 · answer #9 · answered by Captain Flaps 3 · 1⤊ 0⤋
The police enforce the laws but do not make them.
They must get fed up dealing with youth crime.
The government has eroded the power of parents to dicipline their own children, kids are aware of this and undermine their parents. The result? solicitors,social workers are all very busy and earning plenty out of others misery.
2007-03-07 17:47:25 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 3⤊ 0⤋