Jesus son of Joseph. Does the discovery of this ossuary strengthen your religous convictions or refute it?

Question

Being an Atheist, I believe in no higher power or ultimate being. We're just human, borne and evolved from nature, not divinity. As special as that may make us seem, it just isn't true, not for me anyway.

So far as I can tell, Jesus was just a man. The only powers he posessed was that of a skilled orator with such profound words and statements that it could only be divine, right? He never left Earth ascending to the heavens, he remained here, buried in a tomb for 2000 years. This will be debated between the scientific and religous communities for years to come I suspect. Fact vs. Faith. Yeah, this is gonna be good.

Heaven and Hell? Lol. You fear an entity and this conflicts with your belief. I understand you feel the need to refute it and it's not solid yet, but 1:30,000 odds, Hmmm. The sky IS falling.

Oh and in regard to "Whathappen", there is no God. Never has been, never will be. No, I'm not Agnostic, I'm an Atheist.

Answer 1

You make no assertion in your question or follow-up that the Jesus of the ossuary is the same mythical Jesus of Christianity yet the Christians are up in arms over your question. Do you suppose their overzealous defense may indicate a weakness of faith? They seem more shaken than they want to admit.

Answer 2

The documentary was compelling and persuasive. The discussion afterwards seemed to be tilted unfairly against Jacobovici. I was surprised at the amount of circumstantial evidence that supports the conclusions of the filmmakers. Certainly the case is not airtight on either side of the argument. If a DNA link can be established between everyone in the tomb apart from the Magdalene, and then a link proven between Magdalene and the child Judah, it would still not prove that the bones in question belong to Jesus of Nazareth. People who have based their faith on anything less than a supernatural awakening by God will be shaken now and probably fall away. The Bible predicts a great falling away prior to the second coming. It also says that only the Holy Spirit will prevent the true believers from being deceived, as the delusion will be so powerful. The film neither strengthens nor refutes my faith. It just makes me more cognizant of the need for Christians to allow God to use us to reach out to a lost and dying world with the love He has demonstrated to us.

Answer 3

If you're looking to this "discovery" to embolden and strengthen your atheist beliefs, then I am afraid you are barking up the wrong tree.

The ossuary in question wasn't discovered recently. It was discovered over ten years ago -- and the only reason we're hearing about it now is because of Cameron's "documentary."

That, alone, should tell you something about its authenticity.

And didn't you read in the news -- the archaeological community (the real experts, unlike Cameron) has universally dismissed the idea that this ossuary contains Jesus' bones.

It's also telling how many atheists demand proof of God's existence under the strictest of conditions -- yet, when it comes to this ossuary, they require no proof at all. They just buy it hook, line, and sinker.

So, to answer your question -- the ossuary means nothing to me or to my Catholic faith.

That's because the ossuary does not contain what Cameron says it MIGHT contain -- and I have the entire archaeological community behind that statement.

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Answer 4

There can never be such a discovery! Just in case there is - it will invalidate only one prophecy out of +- 1500 prophecies and 500 ramifications!

In fact, the book of Matthew does satisfy those who don't take Jesus as the son of God, by listing the genealogy of Jesus Christ with Joseph as the father.

So, even if there is such a discovery, it won't change anything!

Answer 5

You want fact, here's one for you .......

Atheism is absolutely false, because you absolutely can't know everything about everything. And to make a statement that "There is no God" is an absolute statement.

You my friend are in fact an Agnostic --- you "do not believe that there is a God".

This find, one which was made in 1980, does not change facts of the Bible. According to the Word of God, Jesus Christ appeared to a number of people --- after being crucified and buried. Then many saw Him physically being taken into Heaven.

One day He will return, in the same way He left this planet. Physically!

Are you prepared to meet Him face-to-face and give an account of all your thoughts, words, and actions?

Answer 6

Just the fact that someone like Simcha Jacobovichi is involved means ...IT'S A JOKE . His works never have any historical accuracy , I'm not gone to talk about biblical facts as he does because the bible was wrote long after Jesus death.
He does the same every single time he shots a documentary , no deep investigations showing facts that prove NOTHING
He just a film maker that likes money and not historical accuracy in his investigations

Answer 7

Be debated for years to come? Do you think this is new? It's been debated for over 2000 years. Nothing new here.

This whole tomb thing has me wondering...why are atheists who demand so much proof...so willing to blindly believe something that is not even close to being proved? Would their belief in the "tomb of Jesus" qualify as blind faith? Where is the standard of "proof" that so many atheists constantly deride Christians about? Why do they not practice what they preach?

Answer 8

Friend can you come up with any other questions, You asked this a few days ago, & I responded, First of All Joeseph is NOT Jesus Father, God is Or you can say The Holy Ghost is, Did Jesus have 2 daddy's no, The Holy Ghost & God Is the same spirit

Answer 9

It neither strengthens my religious beliefs or refutes them. It will pose some interesting debates for the future. I am hoping that more scientist's will weigh-in with their research soon. If Christs ascention was just spiritually, maybe some Christians will rethink, and not take the bible so literally. I think thats the best I could hope.

Answer 10

First off, there's nothing that says this discovery has any validity. In fact, the filmmaker was picked apart afterwards. Secondly, you think we're just here by coinicdence? You know, if the Earth were tilted a couple inches off its axis, the world wouldn't exist. Coincidence? We just "happened" to evolve from monkeys but there's never been a link discovered between us and them. Nothing in the Bible has ever been disproven but many things have been proven. You better start asking yourself these questions and start looking for the answers. You're in the waiting room for Heaven or Hell, buddy. I hope you choose wisely.