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"My scientist friends have come up with things like "principles of uncertainty" and dark holes. They're willing to live inside imagined hypotheses and theories. But many religious folks insist on answers that are always true. We love closure, resolution and clarity, while thinking that we are people of "faith"! How strange that the very word "faith" has come to mean its exact opposite.
People who have really met the Holy are always humble. It's the people who don't know who usually pretend that they do. People who've had any genuine spiritual experience always know they don't know. They are utterly humbled before mystery. They are in awe before the abyss of it all, in wonder at eternity and depth, and a Love, which is incomprehensible to the mind. It is a litmus test for authentic God experience and is -- sadly -- absent from much of our religious conversation today. My belief and comfort is in the depths of Mystery, which should be the very task of religion."- Fr. Richard Rohr

2007-03-04 08:48:21 · 8 answers · asked by ? 4 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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Yes pretty much. I like your Yin-Yang avatar.

2007-03-04 08:51:37 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 2 1

Hypotheses and theories have nothing to do with faith. They are possible explanations, hypotheses being less likely to be the right explanations than theories. Scientific theories are not imaginary, they're pretty solid. They are not, however, held out to be "truth" or "fact", they remain labeled what they are. Faith presents everything, no matter how impossible, as truth, beginning with the completely unfounded and unsupported assertion that deities exist.

I don't see how you can talk about an "authentic God experience", when God doesn't exist. There is no paradox here. Religion is faith-based, and science is not. Love and humility have nothing to do with it, they are human attributes and everyone has them.

To insinuate that a spiritual experience that "humbles" a person is more authentic than one that does not is rather ironic. It underscores a point I've made many times, that religion dehumanizes people, places itself above them, and is not healthy.

2007-03-04 08:56:45 · answer #2 · answered by Non-Believers.net 2 · 2 1

cutting-side technological understanding and faith are certainly extra comparable than their respective supporters might prefer to think of; trouble-free concerns of commentary are key in the two faith and technological understanding. certainly, some human beings at present stick to technological understanding as an endorsed faith; no, i'm not bearing on Scientology, yet somewhat to the reality that some human beings see evolution, working example, as our clarification for existance. How is this any diverse than asserting that God is our clarification for existance? technological understanding and faith are the two constructs of the human suggestions, based off of observations and thoughts formulated by men; in no way is technological understanding "extra provable" than faith. it is likewise real that we religious human beings have come to place emphasis on the flaws that are specific, yet many stuff that are mysteries are aptly named: human beings can in no way totally understand those concerns, and shouldn't seek for to waste their efforts in reading the very workings of God that have wrought our universe. Love is so regrettably absent from our worldwide at present; it particularly is extremely unhappy, yet see you later as each and each believer is composed of teach like to others, it may progressively benefit a place interior the worldwide lower back.

2016-12-18 05:37:54 · answer #3 · answered by lacross 4 · 0 0

Relativity and quantum mechanics shatter any notions a a nice absolute mechanistic world view that can be proven by science. Faith and science are not at odds. It is science and doctrine that collide.

2007-03-04 08:55:58 · answer #4 · answered by novangelis 7 · 1 1

Science can and has, caused many 'scientific' people to have faith in Intelligent Design, if not God Himself, because of the order of things in the universe.

2007-03-04 09:00:19 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0 3

Is it any wonder, then, that those who cannot accept the "certainty" that is modern religion turn instead to the expanding but tentative knowledge that is modern science.

2007-03-04 08:53:25 · answer #6 · answered by NHBaritone 7 · 0 1

science is facts fath is somthing the christians came up with to control people with there stone age fairy tale

2007-03-04 09:08:17 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Dude, think of it this way, Gravity is still only a theory, are you saying you don't believe in gravity?


Use your freaking Brain!!!

2007-03-04 08:54:57 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 1 2

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