how can nps rangers outside their parks run radar speed nets?

Question

it seems to me with vacationers,visitors to and inside the park who are having problems finding a ranger this is the reason it seems like highway robbery when a ranger on a state highway is positioned in such a way as to be stealth until youre right on top of them is fundamentally wrong.
such as the nps rangers along al. state hwy 35.
what say you?

fortunately the law must be reasonable,thus it must in virtually every state i know of require L.E. when running radar to be visible within 100 feet with marked cars,and usually must have the director of highway patrol's permission to do so,as well as the training for such whether at POST or that states public safety training facility.the job of a NPS police-ranger or anyother type ranger is within the confines of the park according to nps site.
Even as sworn so called officers of law by NPS,they must be deputized per USC 16 1a-6(c),and per the nps order#9.

to answerer JOHN P maybe yours are however in the cases I have read which are current from yellowstone,to the deep south the federal courts have ruled otherwise with regards to jurisdiction,and whether one of these want to be cops was certified to use the equipment most were not.
The fed. courts have stated that these park police/park rangers could assist in a emergency/or deal with felonies in their presence but not sit and run radar speed nets nearby on state roads already patroled by local L.E.

TO FR_CHUCK if youre a bishop Im the pope,where do you get off assuming,and judging. your 20yrs didnt do much did it since many states such as Georgia require this,and no no sour grapes just something I noticed,and here I made a query about.
stick to your hail marys.

Answer 1

I am sorry but as a officer of 20 years where did you ever get an idea that cars running radar have to be "marked" and that they have to be visable to the public for a certain distance.

I am still laughing over that.

But I don't know that state and thier park rangers.

But in our state park rangers are sworn POST certified law enforcement officers and don't have to be given any authority to be a police officer from anyone else.

If you beleive thier tickets are not valid, try challenging them in court, I bet you don't get far.

Sounds like sour grapes over a law breaker ( speeder) that got caught and would rather try to blame everyone else other than admit thier fault and learn not to speed

Answer 2

Many NPS Rangers are also empowered by the local jurisdictions they serve in. You also need to remember that the NPS has many different classifications of rangers. From the park guides and tree huggin type all the way to full fledged law enforcement type...They are not all the same. And if you werent speeding you wouldnt have to worry about how they were positioned to catch you violating the law.

I got an idea why dont we have them post a big sign on the side of the road saying cops parked here trying to catch you speeding...that way you wont be surprised next time your doin 90mph and have to slam on your brakes...Geesh gimme a break

Answer 3

The law is the law. Who cares who gives a ticket? Many state roads you may think are not their jurisdiction are in fact controlled and patrolled by them. There is no stealth involved. You know the law. The sign says speed limit 55. You go above it. You get caught. You already where warned with the sign.

Answer 4

each state is diverse, yet to the finest of my expertise they could run radar with out any parking lighting fixtures see you later as they're thoroughly off of the shoulder and street. i.e. no longer a danger to drivers. In Pennsylvania, we easily had adult men in camo contained in the woods that would radio to cop automobiles parked extra down the line! Wow guy, Sami merely completely slapped you for the length of the chin there!

Answer 5

The law is reasonable? I think not, they like flexing thier power over you. And team mates that read this, before you throw an answer out.....remember, freedom of speech and freedom to think out loud. Or maybe freedom of speech means nothing to you. That is what our boys are dying for?

Answer 6

Something you may not realize is the natl. parks boundaries are about a mile out of the entrance stations that we all use. So they are not breaking any laws doing so.

Answer 7

If I got tagged by one I would fight the ticket.
Is he in his jurisdiction.
Does he meet the certification standards to operate the equipment