The physical facts about the life and death of Y'Shua have nothing to do with Easter. The resurrection of a crucified man-god savior on Easter morning was a centuries-old religious tradition in Phrygia. He was Attis, and his consort was Cybele.
Attis was born on December 25 and died on Good Friday. After three days in a tomb sealed with a stone, his followers rolled away the stone and found the tomb empty so they shouted "He is risen!"
These annual rituals are what Paul frowns on Galatians 4:10 when he notes "Ye observe days and months," etc. Galatia is in Phrygia, and the worship of Attis and Cybele is its indigenous religion. Christmas and Easter are just Christian adaptations of much older religous practices.
Oh yes, one small detail. As Attis makes his way to his crucifixion, bearing his cross, his devotees along the way castrate themselves and throw their testicles in his path. Today, Christians just throw palm branches. Much less messy and easier to clean up, I suppose. But still, tossing a few palm leaves seems emotionally a rather feeble substitute for the passionate excision and discarding of the family jewels.
2007-03-04 11:41:52
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answer #3
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answered by fra59e 4
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1) Nothing is new here: scholars have known
about the ossuaries ever since March of 1980, so
this is old news recycled. The general public
learned when the BBC filmed a documentary on them
in 1996, and the “findings” tanked again.. James
Tabor’s book, The Jesus Dynasty, also made a big
fuss over the Talpiot tombs more recently, and
now James Cameron (The Titanic) and Simcha
Jacobovici have climbed aboard the sensationalist
bandwagon as well. Another book comes out today,
equally as worthless as the previous.
2) All the names – Yeshua (Joshua, Jesus),
Joseph, Maria, Mariamene, Matia, Judah, and Jose
-- are extremely common Jewish names for that
time and place, and thus nearly all scholars
consider that these names are merely
coincidental, as they did from the start. Some
scholars dispute that “Yeshua” is even one of the
names. One out of four Jewish women at that
time, for example, were named Maria. There are
21Yeshuas cited by Josephus, the first-century
Jewish historian, who were important enough to be
recorded by him, with many thousands of others
that never made history. The wondrous
mathematical odds hyped by Jacobovici that these
names must refer to Jesus and his family are
simply playing by numbers and lying by statistics.
3) There is no reason whatever to equate “Mary Magdalene” with “Mariamene,”
as Jacobovici claims. And so what if her DNA is
different from that of “Yeshua” ? That
particular “Mariamme” (as it is usually spelled
today) could indeed have been the wife of that
particular “Yeshua,” who was certainly not Jesus.
4) Why in the world would the “Jesus Family” have
a burial site in Jerusalem, of all places, the
very city that crucified Jesus? Galilee was
their home. In Galilee they could have had such
a family plot, not Judea. Besides all of which,
church tradition and the earliest Christian
historian, Eusebius of Caesarea, are unanimous in
reporting that Mary, the mother of Jesus, died in
Ephesus, where the apostle John, faithful to his
commission from Jesus on the cross, had accompanied her.
5) The “Jesus Family” simply could not have
afforded the large crypt uncovered at Talpiot,
which housed, or could have housed, 200 ossuaries.
6) If this were Jesus’ family burial site, what
is Matthew doing there – if indeed “Matia” is thus to be translated?
7) How come there is no tradition whatever –
Christian, Jewish, or secular -- that any part of
the Holy Family was buried at Jerusalem?
8) Please note the extreme bias of the director
and narrator, Simcha Jacobovici. The man is an
Indiana-Jones-wannabe who oversensationalizes
anything he touches. You may have caught him on
his TV special regarding The Exodus, in which the
man “explained” just about everything that still
needed proving or explaining in the Exodus
account in the Old Testament! It finally became
ludicrous, and now he’s doing it again, though in
reverse: this time attacking the Scriptural
record. – As for James Cameron, how do you
follow the success of The Titanic? Well, with an
even more “titanic” story. He should have known
better, and the television footage of the two
making their drastic statements on Monday,
February 26 was disgusting, and their subsequent
claim that they respected Jesus nauseating.
9) Even Israeli authorities, who – were they
anti-Christian – might have used this “discovery”
to discredit Christianity, did not do so. Quite
the opposite. Joe Zias, for example, for years
the director of the Rockefeller Museum in
Jerusalem, holds Jacobovici’s claims up for scorn
and his documentary as “nonsense.” Those
involved in the project “have no credibility
whatever,” he added. – Amos Kloner, the first
archaeologist to examine the site, said the
conclusions in question fail to hold up by
archaeological standards “but make for profitable
television.” -- William Dever, one of America’s
most prominent archaeologists, said, “This would
be amusing if it didn’t mislead so many people.”
10) Finally, and most importantly, there is no
external literary or historical evidence whatever
that Jesus’ family was interred together in a
common burial place anywhere, let alone
Jerusalem. The evidence, in fact, totally
controverts all this in the case of Jesus: all
four Gospels, the letters of St. Paul, and the
common testimony of the early church state that
Jesus rose from the dead, and did not leave his
bones behind in any ossuary, as the current sensationalists claim.
Bottom line: this is merely naked hype, baseless
sensationalism, and nothing less than a media fraud, “more junk on Jesus.”
2007-03-04 11:28:49
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answered by Anonymous
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They haven't found the body of Jesus. Jesus raised from the dead, victorious over death, for us. He ascended to the right hand of God; the Father, Word & Holy Spirit; in His human resurrected everlasting body. His human body is one with the Father, Word & Holy Spirit. Jesus is the human victory who is also the Word of God.
So if the Resurrection didn't happen, our faith is vanity. But I know in my spirit, the Resurrection did happen.
2007-03-04 12:45:32
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answered by t a m i l 6
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