Was Jesus physically present in Old Testament?

Question

I always wondered about Hebrews 11:26 "He (Moses) regarded disgrace for the sake of CHRIST as of greater value than the treasures of Egypt" - How did Moses know and submit to Christ when Christ wasn't even born?

I think this article explains it... tell me what you think

http://www.carm.org/misc/plurality.htm

Answer 1

It is a great article. The scriptures shows that Christ was present at creation and existed before all creation. People from the old testament were looking forward to the promise, they looked forward to the cross and we as christians, look back to it.

Answer 2

Christ almost certainly did appear in the Old Testament, but he was not in physical form. He appeared in theophanies as the article describes. However, I'm pretty sure that Hebrews 11:26 doesn't refer to a theophany, but rather it simply means that Moses looked forward to the coming of the Messiah (he probably had a general knowledge from God of the coming of the Messiah). This is implied in the next part of the sentence in Hebrews 11:26, "for he was looking to the reward."

Answer 3

Well of cores the second person of the Trinity existed Matthew 1 clears that up, now how Moses knew to refer to him as Christ, I'm not certain. I personally believe any time the Old testament refers to the "Angel of the Lord" it's referencing the per-incarnate Christ.

Answer 4

...the non-Jewish residents of Palestine tried to don several different identities. First, they attempted to become Ottomans. This attempt failed after the defeat of the Ottoman army and subsequent withdrawal of Ottoman authority from Palestine. As Khalidi wrote, "in a period of a few years, Ottomanism as an ideology went from being one of the primary sources of identification for Palestinians, to having no apparent impact at all". Then came the turn of the Syrian identity that did not last long either. When the French crushed the two-year-old independent Syrian state in 1920, the elite of the Palestinian Arabs decided to change orientation again. Khalidi quotes the nationalist leader Musa Kazim Pasa al-Husayni, who said, "Now, after the recent events in Damascus, we have to effect a complete change in our plans here. Southern Syria no longer exists. We must defend Palestine".

Answer 5

It is debatable if jesus was physically present EVER. I have no doubt that no one in Moses' time would have ever heard of him or any such thing in Judaism. The Pharoh was the man-god of the hour those days, and Jews hardly worshiped him, esp after the whole plague and exodus thing..

Answer 6

Yes, this also explains John 8 56 "Your father Abraham rejoiced to see My day, and he saw it and was glad."
Isaak's sacrifice points to Jesus the Lamb.
Both are "the only begotten Son"
Have to carry the "Wood" up the Hill

Answer 7

oh yeah men absolutely yes Daniel 3:24

24 Then King Nebuchadnezzar leaped to his feet in amazement and asked his advisers, "Weren't there three men that we tied up and threw into the fire?"
They replied, "Certainly, O king."

25 He said, "Look! I see four men walking around in the fire, unbound and unharmed, and the fourth looks like a son of the gods."

Answer 8

Only in the spirit, prior to his incarnation.

But many (most?) theologians consider the 2nd person of the Holy Trinity to be the one that always and typically interacted with man, from the time of creation.

Answer 9

Christ is a different English word for the Hebrew one "Messiah" and literally translated from "Christos" in ancient Greek

The Jews believe in their Christ, their Jewish Messiah, not Jesus

Answer 10

Yes, In Daniel in the story of Ashak Meshak and Abednego
the king saw "a fourth one like unto the son of man" in the fiery furnace. First mention of the son of man. And the son of man always refers to Jesus Christ.