I live in California. My friend is an Atheist. We had an earthquake, and he yelled, "Oh God!"
I said - "WHO are you talkig to!!"
To this day, I've never let him live that down.
2007-03-03 19:12:19
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answered by Debi in LA 5
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Both theories seem silly.
The idea that we came into existence from nothing seems ridiculous.
But, at the same time, the idea that a god created us, and he has always been around and no one created him, and there was no beginning to this intelligent being, and he was able to create us using his mind, and the fact that there is NO empirical scientific evidence for this is also silly.
The question is, which one is more silly?
I'm an atheist and I would very much like there to be a god because I would like to continue to exist after this life, but just because you want something to be true, doesn't mean that it is true.
I have to go with what the evidence supports.
Atheism is simply a LACK of a belief in a god. Deists have come up with the theory and the burden of proof is on them.
I don't believe for one moment that if a god does exist that he or she would send me to hell forever.
I'm a good person and if god is all wise and all knowing, I think I could be forgiven for not believing due to the lack of scientific evidence.
Incidentally, I am friends with many Christians and I admire the ones that stick to their principles. Christianity does have the potential to do alot of good for people, but you will have to forgive me if I disagree with the beliefs due to a lack of evidence.
2007-03-04 03:20:04
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answered by Steve A 2
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"A high chance there is no god"? That's like saying there's a good chance of no purple and pink elephants existing.
You are arguing a negative, which is always a false argument. False arguments are used for two reasons: one, the arguer doesn't understand the basis of logic and reason, or two, the arguer is dishonest and can't prove his point by a positive argument, so he seeks to switch the burden of proof. Judging by the rest of your words, you are in the uneducated category.
And people do not "believe" in the big bang. The big bang is an explanation for the universe based on all the evidence we have, and where it makes predictions, it has been shown to be right.
Belief is acceptance while ignorant, such as is religion. Theorizing is postulating while investigating, as science does. (Take your time and look up the words in a dictionary since they're obviously ones you'll not know.)
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2007-03-04 05:33:52
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answered by Anonymous
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Evidence and strong logic.
There is no evidence for God, so you don't create one to fill gaps.
Regardless of the odds, life exists. It developed on Earth once. Given the vastness of the universe, it is very likely that other Earth-like worlds exist, but we haven't seen them yet. For this reason, we do not know the odds of life developing on an Earth-like world. Creationists say it is highly improbable, but they have no facts. It may in fact be inevitable that life will evolve if a volume of water such as the Earth's oceans is present for half a billion years.
Atheists have evidence and logic; Creationists have deception and lies.
2007-03-04 03:24:06
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answered by novangelis 7
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We know we exist; nothing points to the existence of any gods.
It sounds like you're arguing that the anthropic principle indicates a creator.
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The term “Anthropic Principle” was coined by a theoretical physicist named Brandon Carter in 1973.
It basically claims that the conditions of the Universe as it was unfolding from the Big Bang were so “finely tuned” that if anything was just a slight bit different along the way then our universe would have turned out in such a way that we wouldn’t be here.
Some with a theistic bent use this sort of thinking to claim that the universe unvailing the way it did was so improbable that a Creator must surely be at the controls.
The problem with this sort of thinking (in the context of probabilities of conditions) is that it assumes that we we are *supposed* to be here.
Why is this wrong?
Because in universes where semi-intelligent people (not talking about truck drivers) don’t arise, there is no one there to speculate on their good fortune. It could be that a tremendous amount of universes have arisen and ours happened to be, by chance one where intelligent life could arise.
Here is an analogy: Suppose someone was dazzling you with the odds against your parents conceiving a child with your exact genetic makeup? Because of the number of possible arrangements of genes, the odds are staggering, probably trillions to one against you existing, yet here you are reading this article today.
Does this mean that you were destined to be here? No. If the car hadn’t run out of gas that night or if the liquor cabinet had been empty or if a number of variables had been a little different, then someone else might have been conceived to speculate on their good fortune.
Back to the Creator argument: In order to calculate probabilities, you have to know how many samples you have in a set. The theist asserting that AP supports a creator would likely assert a very low number for the number of universes and most likely they would assert just 1, but we have no idea of how many universes there are or have ever been, so we can’t say. The number is somewhere between 1 and infinity. If you don’t know how many universes there are and if universes unfold in at least somewhat random ways, you can’t calculate the probability of a given universe unfolding a certain way.
2007-03-04 03:12:57
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answered by eldad9 6
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I'm not sure if there is a God or not. But Atheists are extremely narrow-minded. They refuse to believe in any chance there is a God. Atheisism allows people to live without any set moral standard (which doesnt mean they are immoral, they could be very much so, but they are not morally obligated by any outside force). You can't live the same way.
And Atheists are worse than the religious, because in a sense they follow their own religion blindly, and yet scoff at those that are religious. They claim their beliefs are fact, when they are just beliefs just like everyone elses.
2007-03-04 03:15:03
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answered by curiousguy 2
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If you drop a penny what are the odds that it will fall to the floor. Not very high. There are after all many different directions it could go. If you add up all these other directions and compare them to the falling direction the odds that it will fall make it virtually impossible. Intelligent falling is the only answer. gravity is, after all, just a theory.
2007-03-04 03:14:50
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answered by U-98 6
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I don't know how the universe began, nobody does and don't tell me God did it you whacko, that's retarded to me. The Big Bang Theory is just that, a theory. We can speculate and surmise 'til we turn blue in the face, but we only do that to fill in the blanks to try to make sense of it all.
However, I'm not one to believe that some "being" grabbed some dirt and made a man, snapped one of his ribs out and then made a woman, then kicked them out of utopia because they disobeyed and ate his fruit 'cause some snake coaxed them into doing it. Dr. Seuss wrote better stories then that one.
2007-03-04 03:22:57
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answered by Pontius 3
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I don't think that most atheists "don't believe" in God because "the odds" are against it - we just believe that the universe and all life was the result of "natural" processes, and not "shazamed" into existence by a super-being.
2007-03-04 03:16:13
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answered by zowar1363 4
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atheists are just like religious people in a sense that they are at the opposite end of the spectrum. i think that if people can just find a balance, than they can be at peace. i would say that i am at the 0 point of the spectrum, which is nuetral, and i am at peace with that. i like it this way because it allows me to not be too judgemental and harsh. i just have a lot of love in my heart for everything that exists, and having such a strong, hard stand on something is not my style. i don't believe in that. to be honest, the only thing that i don't like too much are flies and misquito eaters. i have yet to learn how to love those things. everything else, i love. that goes for living things, and things that have lived before. i want to learn how to love everything.
2007-03-04 03:19:13
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answered by lilyblossom84 1
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Actually, given the hundreds of billions of stars and planets, and the billions of years of the universe's existence, probability says that not only should we be here, but also that we have many, many neighbors, even if the chances of life developing on a single planet are infinitesimal.
You religious types would understand that if you spent some time studying math or science.
2007-03-04 03:16:42
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answered by screaminhangover 4
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