How can you say Catholicism isn't a true Christian Religion?!?

Question

WOW!!!

People have been telling me here that Catholicism is not a true Christian religion? How is that now?!

Seriously? I mean, Peter was the first Pope, right?!

ANd if we trace back catholicism, be it roman or orthodox, correct me if I'm wrong but it's the oldest christian religion isn't it!?

Pretty much all the other ones are just a FEW hundred years old.

I mean, the Lutheran/Protestant religion broke from Catholicism during the reformation.

All I'm saying is that Catholicism is the oldest existing christian religion, i'm not saying it is any more right than any other religion (in fairness, if you're a christian you're a christian).

I just can't understand how you can say that catholicism isn't a christian religion?

Answer 1

I'm not a catholic but I do recognize my heritage. I think you were the only organized church for several centuries.

Two things I see seem to cause this bias

1)) the misconception that you worship Mary. (vs ask for her intercession on your behalf)

2)) the whole priesthood of the believer issue - we have the holy spirit we dont need a fallible earthy priest to communicate with God

Answer 2

Catholicism has just as much of a claim on Christianity as any of the other sects that are teaching doctrine that is in direct conflict with the Bible.

1 Timothy 4:1 However, the inspired utterance says definitely that in later periods of time some will fall away from the faith, paying attention to misleading inspired utterances and teachings of demons, 2 by the hypocrisy of men who speak lies, marked in their conscience as with a branding iron; 3 forbidding to marry, commanding to abstain from foods which God created to be partaken of with thanksgiving by those who have faith and accurately know the truth.

2 Timothy 4:3 For there will be a period of time when they will not put up with the healthful teaching, but, in accord with their own desires, they will accumulate teachers for themselves to have their ears tickled; 4 and they will turn their ears away from the truth, whereas they will be turned aside to false stories.

Catholicism didn't rear it's head until the third century AD. Peter most definitely WAS NOT the first Pope unless they dug him out of his grave to make him one since he had been dead for roughly 250 years before the Catholic church came on the scene.

Since Catholicism didn't show up until the 3rd century, they are definitely not the oldest Christian religion. There has always been just one true Christian religion. The rest are Apostate, and the apostasy's started will some of the apostles were still alive, so the Catholic Church isn't even the first of the Apostate sects, just the most well known.

Answer 3

You say how can Catholicism not be a Christian religion.

Catholicism came into existence around 325 AD when all the so called religions came together for a big meeting. the council of Nisan, Sorry for misspelled word there.

They all wanted a piece of the big pie that the controlled people could slice to them.

You say the Peter was the first Pope. this is so far from the truth that its funny. Peter did not survive to be present at the meeting in 325 AD. That's a huge lie.

May I tell you something about being a Christian. Christian's don't have a religion or practice one. Christianity is a reality not a religion.

All people who belong to a religious order such as the Catholics are not Christians. They practice a theology and dogmas and traditions of man that makes the Word of God null and void to them.

So they fall into the category of not being Christian. Almost all religions break God's Commandments. This is not be Christian.

You can always do an Internet search on Catholicism and you will be amazed at the truth you will uncover.><>

Answer 4

The only thing that keeps hordes of protestants from becoming Catholic is the misinformation and outright lies that are spread about the Catholic faith, which has always been, and will always remain, the only Church that Jesus ever personally founded, and the only Church that is one, holy, catholic, and apostolic, in the truest and best sense.

Only those who showed up 1500 years late, after the world had already been converted for Christ, and pushing their lame theologies, based solely on the false traditions of men, would have the unmitigated gall to deny the Church that Jesus founded, and then, without any authority at all, set up new ones of their own.

Those same men went about making up religions based on faith alone, and scripture alone, in opposition to the teachings of the true Church, when neither of those principles is even stated in scripture ... scripture that was in fact, largely written, and totally compiled and canonized, by the Catholic Church.

They deny the fact of the papacy for much the same reasons.

In this, they are no better than the Muslims, who continue to deny the fact that a Jewish Temple once stood on the Temple Mount in Jerusalem, a fact that is universally accepted by people the world over, and proven by ancient remains.

Perhaps God wll forgive them, for at least some of them know not what they do.

Answer 5

Peter was long dead before Emperor Constantine made Christianity Romes official religion creating the Catholic church.

How "Christian" is Catholicism anyway?
They gamble on church grounds(Bingo)...I think I read somewhere that Christ didn't approve of that sort of thing.
They worship saints and icons and I'm pretty sure I read in some book that that's kind of not good either.
If you want to get technical the oldest Christian religion were the Gnostic's.
I apologize for bashing Catholics a little there but I was baptized and raised Catholic and it turned me off for a long time until I realized I didn't need religion to be a Christian.

Answer 6

Wow, Lord help me not to try to bite this all off at once! Luther loved the church but saw where they were diverting from the word of God. The Leaders had the word and the people did not. this led to abuse.Purgatory was a stretch-to say the very least-from one verse.They made an entire doctrine from thin air then tricked the blind followers into paying to get loved ones years off their time in purgatory.That is big time abuse and there are so many more.The Biblical example is get saved,call on Christ and then ask,can I be baptized.There are 2 reasons they baptize infants-too long to explain here.One of our fave. Bible teachers was raised Cath.says that the religion-(not relationship) he was raised in was about 25% Bible-75% made up. I hate long answers so I am trying to move along. Peter is a pope? Then read the books by Peter in the New Test. I read them over and over when the last pope was dying. I was surprised. If you are really searching-read the 2 books of Peter-compare them to Cath. teaching. I was raised Cath.but ..oh I have so much more wish I could talk to you.

Answer 7

Because Jesus did not not want people to follow him, but to follow God. He merely said that he would use Peter to establish his Church (a reformed Judaism). He never said that the Bishop of Rome should rule the rest. The derailment was cause by St. Paul (who was not even alive when Jesus was). Paul corrupted a lot of things.

He took the veneration of Jesus' brother Jacob out of the mix. Go read the Gnostic Bible. Examine the Council of Nicea where they voted on Christ's Divinity. See what the Aryan Heretics, Bogomils and other non-conforming groups thought. The Catholic Church effectively shut them all up, disowning the secret Gospel of James and that of Mary Magdalene, all because it was not "convenient".

The Catholic Church also bowdlerized reincarnation. Read the Bible where the disciples asked why the blind man was the way he was - whether for his own sins or that of his parents (how could they have been his own sins if he was blind from birth unless they were from a previous life?).

The Catholics make you pray and get absolution thru a human confessor and/or priest instead of directly to God or Jesus. The Catholics will not let divorced people take Communion. They deny the sacraments to precisely those who need them the most.

The Mafia was started primarily by Catholics who take a cavalier attitude towards sin. The Pope has been an agent of the Mafia since John Paul II. Just read all you can on the Vatican Bank.

The Catholics worship the Virgin Mary as if she were another God, and throw in the saints to be prayed to as if they were more important than other humans or something. So in essence Catholicism is like Hinduism - polytheistic.

The Catholic Church has sought to destroy the Coptic Church, a branch of Christianity that refused to come under the submission of Rome. Catholics do not appreciate that those of the Greek and Eastern Orthodox stand tall and do not consider the Pope their leader. Jesus himself said : "Call no man Master (Rabbai)". Yet the Pope today (as well as all past ones) considers himself the only true leader in all Christendom. How pretentious! I submit a little African girl pure in spirit is more Godly! Let her rule!

I have not even mentioned Opus Dei, that sham neo-Nazi group masquerading as a true lover of Christianity that goes about executing people. Need I go on?

I have the Church of the Holy Spirit in me - I do not need a know-it-all organization to tell me how to think and pray.

Answer 8

thank goodness!!! i get sooooo irritated when people say Catholicism isn't considered christian! i'm episcopal which is a branch off of Catholicism. so next i guess they're gonna say i'm not either! i agree 100% with you. it is the oldest form of Christianity (if i recall correctly) i had a manager that thought he couldn't get married in the church his wife went to (she's his wife now not at the time) because he's catholic and everyone kept telling him he wasn't considered a christian etc. he was very torn up about it until i looked at him like he was crazy and i was like you believe Jesus died on the cross and that God is the father right? and he was like yeah and i was like ok then you're christian! that's been a newer idea i think at least in this area where i live. i hadn't heard of anyone saying that about Catholicism until the past couple years. actually he was the first person i ever heard say that.

Answer 9

I agree with you!

It really bothers me how much anti- Catholicism there is. I would at least respect the religion that made my own religion. Makes me think, "If they think the Church is in error, boy- are they in bigger trouble!"

Another thing that bothers me is how people try to prove anti-Catholicism from the Bible. What most don't know is that the Bible is a Catholic book!

But to each his own.
We must pray for tolerance within our great religions and follow one of the most important teachings of Jesus: Love eachother.

God Bless!

Answer 10

The church that eventually evolved into the twisted version of Christianity is sometimes referd to as the Catholic church.

No, Peter was not the first "pope". Peter was the apostle to the gentiles (non-jews).

The monk, Martin Luther, was able to see the corruption and vileness of the Catholic church and rebeled. This was the reform movement that brought forth the first "protestant" congregations. Notice the "protest" in "Protestant".

Anyone with at least two functioning brain cells that reads the Bible will easily see the abomination that almost every so-called Christian organization has become.

Want to be a real Christian? Read and heed the teachings of Christ! don't fall for the twisting of the Gospel that almost EVERY evangelist, priest, and preacher today is spouting.

Answer 11

Let's see. You all get baptised and forgiven by Christ's blood and you all spread His message. Sounds like a Christian to me. You see, the truth is that any extremist philosophy or theology is going to fracture into groups that antagonize each other for not having the 'right message'. (The idea of a One True Faith that makes all other human spirituality False and Paths to Damnation is an extreme notion, accept it.) You see this in other extremist faiths that agressively push their doctrine: Sunni vs Shea, the dozens of Christian sects that antagonize each other. At least you understand that their is still bad blood from the reformative period and Henry VIII and all that. But, you all need to understand that your faith basically began as Judeism for Gentiles. Jesus was a Rabbi who wanted to bring to closed Jewish religion to non-Jews. Study the attitudes the ancient Hebrews had about people of other faiths and bloods. If you weren't a Hebrew, you were going to Hell as far as they were concerned. Jesus comes along and tries to allow Gentiles into their closed faith. This made the other Rabbis mad and they arranged to have him executed. I can't accept that one single tribe of people who hated everyone else has the Only True Faith. If that's not extreme, than how do you see it?