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ive never seen south america, i cant prove its really there, but i would believe it right? is belief an assumpition? so is "faith" an assumption? if you KNOW god exists, then are you really showing faith?

IS EVERY BELIEVERS BELIEF PASCALS WAGER?

2007-03-03 15:00:56 · 22 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

MONICA L: do you personally assult the asker in order to avoid he question ALL the time, or just most?

2007-03-03 15:06:40 · update #1

P.S. i dislike, not quite hate, but dislike dragon ball z. dont watch it.

2007-03-03 15:07:45 · update #2

schneb: no, its not obvious. and your going an many assumptions. prove to me that a such thing as a "soul" exists. prove that there "has" to be a creator. science and possablity displays that there does not "have" to be a creator. there are plenty of concievable scenarios in which no god is nessessary for existance. you are just a fool with an extensive vocabulary, nothing more.

2007-03-03 15:13:07 · update #3

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The Sumerian civilization is the oldest and was the most advanced in ancient history. We still use their mathematics to this day. The Sumerian's kept very detailed records written on clay and then heated to create stone. Their understanding of our solar system, measurements of time, the calendar and the structure of society we have today appeared out of no where.

It is written in the history of the Sumerian's writings and record keeping that all of this knowledge was given to them from a race called the Anunnaki.

Translated from their language this means literally, those from heaven to earth came.

This is the history of our planet and our beginnings, so I would suggest you spend a few hours researching and you will understand that I believe in what I know, not in assumptions.

Every religion on this planet has taken from the Sumerian book, The Epic of Creation and twisted it for their own purpose.
There are over 100,000 tablets detailing this civilizations history and the history of whom we are and why we were created.

This is not science fiction, this is science fact, and scholars, academics from around the world are amazed with each new discovery that is made from the Sumerian history.

Would it cause you duress to know we were created as slaves?

Religion perpetuates fabrication to control the people in their "flocks" so you will not know the truth of creation.
Your creators name is ENKI, his symbol is the serpent.

But the connection between humans and the Anunnaki is much more profound than that of masters and slaves. All the evidence strongly advocates the concept that Adam and Eve and their ancestors, cousins, were created by genetic engineering and mixing the DNA of Anunnaki with that of Homo erectus, the reigning progenitor of man at the time. Fundamentally, this was because the Anunnaki needed someone to work the mines in search of gold and other precious metals.

Look it up, the evidence is astounding.



Peace

2007-03-03 16:37:19 · answer #1 · answered by nmp948 4 · 0 0

*Grumble, grumble, grumble*

Hey, kid, go have some milk and cookies or something, ok?

In the book A Hope in the Unseen, FAITH is described as just that: a hope that something is true.

For example, I have never seen South America, but I would really like to go see Carnival and see some mostly naked women shake their booty, so I have faith that it is real. Backing up that faith is that I have been to Costa Rica and the Dominican Republic, including from the air, which confirmed the maps I had seen... so why would the rest lie? Ah, but that could be the trick though, couldn't it? Maybe there is no South America, but the mapmakers were banking on me buying it even though it was fake...

Wooa, Nelly! The mapmakers could be proven WRONG, so then who would buy their maps? They have a vested interest in being factual.

Now, the God business can afford to bank on the unprovable because we can't get solid evidence one way or another on the divine or if there are even any gods at all. AND they get paid by their believers to keep it up!

Every believer's belief cannot be Pascal's Wager because of the Agnostic's Dilemma: if I accept the idea of the Wager, then how do I know which God(s) is/are the correct one(s)? All the religious people will tell you the same thing: either their god is real or not! Wow, isn't that ever blatantly obvious and totally not helpful!

SO I think what it comes down to is that faith is a reflection of what someone hopes would be true.

What do you hope would be true?

2007-03-03 15:16:56 · answer #2 · answered by Cheshire Cat 6 · 1 1

Yes, belief's an assumption. When people say they know that God exists, they mean that they believe in it. The term "know" here is a hyperbole.

LOL, yup, Pascal's Wager seems like a highly foolproof argument, doesn't it? We believe in God, there's no harm, and we don't believe in God, we might end up in hell, wasn't that the wager? Heh, k, sorry, but there's another way to take the wager: If I believe in God, I might waste my time.

How so? If I believe in something, it should carry out in my actions. Put in another way, there should be some way to reverse engineer that opinion from your actions. So, there's another belief to weigh down in my actions. So, there's something else that's going to spend my time. So, Pascal's Wager is broken, the balance of the wager is tipped.

So nope, not every believer's belief's a Pascal's Wager. Not if they take what I've mentioned in the above paragraph into judgement.

Your first question in the details section was rhetorical, so I won't bother answering that. Think that's the lot, and good day to you

2007-03-03 16:37:34 · answer #3 · answered by Selena S 2 · 0 0

Belief in God comes from many things. Some people were just raised believing and practicing the religion that their parents taught them. Others weren't raised religiously but became religious as adults based on their own opinions and beliefs or decisions of religious choice. As for me, I'm not religious. I am spiritual, and I have my personal reasons for believing in God. There are some things that have taken place or that I've had dreams about ...or just things that have happened over the years which have led me to believe that there is God. Sometimes things don't make sense and it seems like maybe there isn't a God, but then something always reminds me that there is. Pascal's Wager is something to keep in mind. I guess I have come to that conclusion of believing it's better to live your life as if there is a God...only to die and discover there isn't, instead of living as if there isn't a God, only to die and find out there IS. I think people would be more at peace living that way. Nobody knows for sure what it will be like when we die. I just take into consideration why I believe there is a God and that's all I need to know. I'll find out if there's a God...maybe one day. Maybe I won't. Who knows ? Not going to worry about it.

2007-03-03 15:12:42 · answer #4 · answered by BRAT 4 · 0 0

Well okay, you could assume that South America is or isn't there. But, if you see it for your own eyes, who's telling you it isn't an illusion? Maybe South America is just this virtual reality game and isn't really real. You never know...

But, belief isn't an assumption. If you truly believe in something, you know it's true. You aren't wishy-washy about it. To you, beliefs are facts. So, faith is believing in God, and not an assumption. If you know God exists, then yes, you believe in him and are showing him faith.

2007-03-03 15:08:38 · answer #5 · answered by herbritannicmajesty68 3 · 1 0

Looks like the imperative requires knowledge of something in order to believe in it. I think the difference is between relative things and absolute things. I can know one thing relative to another, but the absolute has no relative to it. However, if I wanted to know what the absolute was like, I could place relative terms on it in order to further my understanding. And once you get to an understanding, you don't need to know all the facts, just have a good enough grasp of the concept at work.

2007-03-03 15:25:45 · answer #6 · answered by Julian 6 · 0 0

A person "believes" something when they don't know it as a true fact. If they knew it as a fact, it wouldn't be a belief anymore, but it would be a fact.

So belief is in a way, an assumption, or an "educated guess," if you will.

"I believe Dad came home." opposed to "Dad came home." The first sentence is filled with uncertainty, and it is not a true fact that Dad came home. But just a guess amounted from other bits of knowledge or experiences.

2007-03-03 15:08:15 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 2 0

If you KNOW something, why do you think that negates BELIEF? Like you said you just said it wrong. You KNOW south america exists, right? You BELIEVE what you KNOW even though you have never seen it. If you saw it you wouldn't need FAITH to BELIEVE it existed. Same with God.

I KNOW he exists
I BELIEVE what I KNOW to be true even though I have never seen him
I have FAITH that what I BELIEVE I KNOW is true.

You have FAITH that how you know south america exists is true. School books for south america, the Bible for believers.

God Bless

2007-03-03 15:11:53 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Belief and faith are matters of "trust". President Regan was famous for saying "Trust, but verify."

My philosophy: Prove what you can. Trust what you must trust in order to cope. I trust God because I am afraid of dying and not having an existence after my stay here on Earth.

2007-03-03 15:09:08 · answer #9 · answered by MrsOcultyThomas 6 · 1 0

The power of faith grows a belief, from an assumption into an experience.
This applies to all aspects of your life, not just 'religious' ones.

2007-03-03 15:07:14 · answer #10 · answered by ? 6 · 2 0

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