2007-03-03 11:45:19 · 7 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Presence****
2007-03-03 11:52:15 · update #1
"Transubstantiation is the change, (through the Eucharistic words of Consecration) of the substance of bread and wine into the body and blood of Christ, with the appearances of bread and wine remaining." The Real Presence is Christ really being present in the consecrated bread and wine.
2007-03-03 11:53:02 · answer #1 · answered by Mary W 5 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Transubstantiation - the essential qualities of the bread and wine become the flesh and blood of Christ, but the accidental qualities of the bread and wine remain.
"Real Presence" is a general term, and includes the theory of transubstantiation.
Alternative view (held by the early Church): The substance of the bread and wine remain bread and wine, but the energies are replaced by the energy of God.
2007-03-03 11:54:48 · answer #2 · answered by NONAME 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Transubstatiation is the Roman (Catholic) doctrine which states that the Body and Blood of Christ are "converted" into the "literal" Body and Blood of Christ throught a miracle of the Holy Spirit.
Real Presence is the Eastern Orthodox doctrine which states that the Body and Blood of Christ are "real and present" in the elements of the Lord's Supper, through the operation of the Holy Spirit.
I believe that BOTH are not what Christ had in mind when he used bread (as a symbol of his Body) and wine (as a symbol of his Blood) to portray the future as he sat with them at the "Last Supper" The Scriptures teach that as often as Christians replicate the Last Supper, they do it in Remembrance of Christ. A MEMORIAL.
Further....if the elements CHANGED, then Christians would be cannibals, eating flesh and drinking blood which is FORBIDDEN in the Scriptures. The elements used metaphorically make sense.
2007-03-03 11:53:45 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 1⤋
Christ is risen.
Real presence.
Hebrews 7v
25Wherefore he is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them.
Transubstantiation and real presence to catholics is a misinterpretation of John 6. They believe that the actual flesh and blood of Christ is present in the Eucharist.
Jesus is risen to heaven in the flesh, and communion he was referring to the spirit, as it is kept alive in our memory of him.
The spirit is our memory of his life, death and resurrection and that is what we partake of in when we eat the bread and drink the new wine of communion. We remeber his body crucifed for our sins, and his blood shed for our sins.
John 6v
61When Jesus knew in himself that his disciples murmured at it, he said unto them, Doth this offend you? 62What and if ye shall see the Son of man ascend up where he was before? 63It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life. 64But there are some of you that believe no
2007-03-03 12:03:44 · answer #4 · answered by andy r 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
"Real Presence"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real_Presence_of_Christ_in_the_Eucharist
"Transubstantiation"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transubstantiation
2007-03-03 11:49:16 · answer #5 · answered by aa.gabriel 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Nothing. Two different names for the same fiction.
2007-03-03 11:48:32 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 3⤋
The latter is spelled correctly.
2007-03-03 11:47:58 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 2⤋