atheist/agnosti/religious question ?

Question

Ok so I know that all of us at one point in our lives have come to doubt the religion

and even with all the advent of technology slowly tearing away at religion, I have become aware that to actually have proof is not litteraly possible

Even so, just by us existing, doesnt that mean that something does exist, the universe, gods whatever you wanna call it

ok so the big bang, we all know it is a very good good model, but for all purposes we know its probably not exactly how it happened, but maybe very similarly

but then why did it happen ?

and if the big bang is correct then where did the ball of gasses come from and if it had been there why did it suddenly change state and explode ?

Answer 1

A legitimate question, and science cannot now (and may never be able to) supply all the answers. Science asks How, not Why. If somebody comes up with the Ultimate Theory of Everything, we may get a better answer to this; Einstein spent the last years of his life looking for such a theory, and never found one. Neither has anyone else. The only thing that we can say for sure about this is that any theory of god doesn't help: it is provable that no such theory can have any effects in the real world.

Answer 2

"all of us at one point in our lives have come to doubt the religion"

incorrect, I have never been a believer.

"just by us existing, doesnt that mean that something does exist, the universe, gods whatever you wanna call it"

are you saying the universe is god? so everything is god? That seems like a rather lame tack. So every human on this planet is then part of god, and why do certain parts of god hate and kill each other?

"why did it happen"

Why is a very human question. We are goal-oriented. Purpose-driven. We want a finish line, a point, a reason. There is every indication that nature simply does not work that way. It just is, dude.

What came before, and why, I reserve judgment on that for now. You must understand this happened a stupendous amount of time ago. Maybe the large hadron collider that's being built will provide us with more insight: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Large_Hadron_Collider

Answer 3

The question is actually nonsensical, but not for the reasons others might think.

I experienced God directly when I was 17. I am not a guru, or authority, or saint, etc. There wasn't even a message or mission, nor did I "deserve it".

After that time, I became VERY aware of the nature of God.

Your question is like asking how why the tip of your finger happened. Where did the first nail come from and why did it suddenly expand into a finger.

God is eternal. The reality we see is a constant cross-section of reality and is not the whole. We call it time, but it all exists, simultaneously, from God's perspective. The Big Bang is just one end of God, that's all, not an event, except from our limited perspective.

I'm not sure that's expressed as clearly as I'd like, but for those with any background in spatial physics I'm pretty sure I was clear (I mean even a layman's knowledge).

Answer 4

Nobody knows. The thing about religious people is that they need an answer to the question "Where did we come from?" Atheists on the other hand don't really care. They think there is a logical explanation that either will or won't be discovered. Atheists are concerned more with their lives in the present rather than why and how they came into existence. That is, generally speaking, and talking about every day life, rather than occupations such as physicist or historian.

Answer 5

The only answer which makes sense to me is that randomness is at the heart of everything - even existence itself. Clearly it's a nonsense to try to explain something as remarkable as the universe by postulating something infinitely more remarkable as its creator. That just presents us with a far bigger problem than we started with. If complexity needs explaining then it can only be explained in terms of ever-increasing simplicity - e.g. all the thousands of substances in the world are made of just a hundred or so elements, which in turn are made of just 3 subatomic particles. It's more complicated than that but you get the idea - we're always trying to explain something complex in terms of something simple. Similarly, if we want to explain why everything happens then we need to go back in the chain of causality and see what lies at the beginning. It seems to me that complete randomness must lie at the root of both these problems, because that's the only thing that needs no prior cause and it's the only thing that cannot be reduced to something simpler.

Just a thought...

Answer 6

You're asking questions that nobody knows the answer to. Where did the Universe start? Anyone who claims they know the answer to that is lying. Believe what you want, but the moment you insist your way is right and someone else's is wrong, you're on the dangerous slope of religion and no good can ever come from such intolerance.

Answer 7

There is no point to asking "why" something happened if there was no reason behind it.
Humans like to put things into little categories to help them explain things.

EXAMPLE: What are eyes for? - To see.
We as humans would like to say that eyes are for seeing, and that their purpose is for us to observe the world around us and get information of our surroundings. Even evolutionists are guilty of saying that the eye's purpose is to help us see to find food and escape from predators. However, they are mistakenly putting a reason for something existing when they have no way of knowing... they are, like all humans, falling prey to the compartmentalization process we use to define the world around us.
However, what if that wasn't the actual reason behind eyes forming? What if those organisms that were able to detect changes in light frequencies around them were able to survive and produce offspring more than those who did not have this ability? Then this "sight" was not really to help "see" but really just an accident that worked. There was no "reason" for it to develop.

It just did and it was beneficial- like how chocolate chip cookies were invented by Amanda Carpenter. She actually ran out of baker's chocolate which would melt in the cookie batter and used semi-sweet chocolate instead, assuming it would melt as well. Instead, it created the chocolate chip cookie which is very successful and popular. It was actually meant to be a chocolate cookie, but intead it created something else that worked.

As with the case of the Big Bang, it just happened and it worked. If it didn't (ie it collapsed on itself prematurely) then that's all that would have happened. End of story, we wouldn't have this conversation because there would be no opportunity for life to develop.

Things that work exist longer than those that don't. That is your "reason" but I doubt it is as satisfying as the one you were looking for.

Answer 8

Please read

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M-theory

Some proponents of the theory now believe that a collision of two branes may have been responsible for the Big Bang.

ones you have the energy Einstein’s equation E=MC2 shows that energy and mater are interchangeable…. We have already made energy from mater so the opposite would also be true.

If you want to descuss the big bang please take a look at the link and feel free to email me if you need help

Answer 9

It came from the big crunch which happened before the big bang and will happen again in the far far future, and for why does this happen no one really knows.

Answer 10

the theory is that two atoms collided. which is very plausable and could be why the universe is expanding. it was a chemical reaction. two atoms came together and reacted. very violently. and us existing is an effect of our enviroment not our enviroment and us being an effect of some magical creator!