Jesus Tomb documentary is coming tomorrow how do you feel Christian friends?

Question

Now that we have Jesus DNA and his residence we can really start to deconstruct the madness of 2000 years of criminal delusion. Inquisition, incitement of violence against the Jews, responsibility for the Holocaust, The Rwandan Massacre...

By the way All religions stink and are the cause of many wars.

Answer 1

DNA? Hmm. That would presuppose a sample existed from which it could be compared to, no?

Cameron is pandering to the public and his "discovery" will be proven to be just bad science:

- The statistical analysis is not rigorous

- The name "Jesus" was a popular name at that time, appearing in 98 other tombs and on 21 other ossuaries

- There is no historical evidence that Jesus was ever married or had a child

- The earliest followers of Jesus never called him, "Jesus, son of Joseph"

- It's unlikely Joseph, who had died earlier in Galilee, would have been buried in Jerusalem

- The Talipot tomb and ossuaries probably would have belonged to a rich family, which is not a historical match for Jesus

- Fourth-century church historian Eusebius makes quite clear the body of James, brother of Jesus, was buried alone near the temple mount.

- The two Mary ossuaries do not mention anyone from Migdal, but just Mary, a common name

- By all ancient accounts, the tomb of Jesus was empty, making it unlikely that any body was moved, allowed to decay for a year, then be put into an ossuary.

- If Jesus had remained in the tomb, first-century opponents of Christianity would most certainly have found His body and put it on public display.

- Amos Kloner, the first archaeologist to examine the site, said the conclusions cannot be supported by the evidence but it's a way to make money on television. He would have nothing to do with supporting the movie's assertions. "It's nonsense," he said.

- James, the half-brother of Jesus and author of the book of James, the early leader of the church in Jerusalem, was martyred for his faith. Why does James make no mention in his letter that Jesus was not bodily resurrected? When he was about to die why didn't he just recant his beliefs and say, 'Okay, okay! My brother didn't rise from the dead. Here's where we took him. Here's where his bones are. Here's our family tomb. We made the whole thing up?' People will generally not die for a lie when they know it's a lie. Why would James die perpetuating a lie when it would have been so easy to disprove? In fact why would any of the apostles go to their deaths for something they knew to be false?

As I have expected, there has been **no scientific or historical find** that has ever been shown to disprove the authenticity of the bible's history or theology.

Kind of sad to see that all it takes is a press conference for folks to form life-altering opinions versus taking the time to rationally examine all the issues and dig a little deeper. It is the Macdonald's generation: fast, superficial, and never satisfying.

Answer 2

About this time last year I had a one hour interview Simca. At that time he was looking for the Red Sea crossing location. I presented him with evidence that there may be another location, but he was adement that he was correct, and basically dismissed my information out of hand.

What evidence did I have?

Extremely unusual coral formations in the Red Sea that even outline chariot parts. (Note: coral will often grow to the form of the relic and then die off.) A large plain that was the location where the Israelites camped at the foot of Mt Sinai. Rocks that were used to hold down the edges of the Tabernacle were still in location and made out a rectangle the given size. Then there were the "Foot" carvings. Hundreds of them are all about. God told the Israelites that wherever there feet trod, that was the land that God would give them. These petroglyphs were evidence that the Children of Isreal believed God, and were preparing boundary markers. As I say Simca politely listened and then basically dismissed me because my evidence did not go along with his theory.

The site of his Sinai had none of the items that were necessary to make it really believeable.

I believe that Simca has tunnel vision.

Today all over the world there are Tombstones that indicate that a man named Jesus (a form of Joshua the sucessor to Moses) ben/david son of Mariam and Joseph is buried there. (Jesus was as common then as the name John is now.) More over, Mary was one of the most common names for women of that time.

I have not seen the documentary, but after an hour's interview with him, my over all feeling is that he decides what great find he wants to make and then bends the facts to assure the outcome

Answer 3

Ever heard of C.S. Lewis?

He wrote something that made a lot of sense. Either Jesus was the Lord or he was a lunatic. He couldn't have been anything else. Who else but a lunatic (or the Lord) would go around saying "I am the Son of God"?

Now, if you believe that, do you think a lunatic would have such a nice burial place? No, he would have been thrown in a heap with no tomb.

Whether or not his human bones stayed here, Jesus was so special that the mere mention of his name sent shivers down the spines of everyone in a position of power. Not to mention he performed miracles that cynics could not explain.

As the theologian van de bergh van Eysinga wrote in 1930:

"JAccording to de Zwaan, diaspora Jews who were educated in Hellenic philosophy couldn't possibly have thought that a Jewish rabbi who was crucified under Pontius Pilate descended to the underworld, preached to the demons there, was resurrected in the flesh, and then ascended, because the idea of resurrection in the flesh was too unphilosophical for them.

But that argument anachronistically ignores that the resurrection of the flesh is merely a secondary development in Christian doctrine. The Gnostic and Marcionite Christians didn't support a fleshly type of 'resurrection'. The resurrection of the flesh is consequence of the Judaization that was necessary in the process of making Christianity a religion for the common people."

The message here is that not all Christians - even to this day (including some Ebonite branches in Africa) do not believe that Jesus's resurrection was a literally physical manifestation, but a metaphysical one. That is just what is in the doctrine. The doctrine is what most Christians believe, but not all.

Lunatic or Lord? You decide.

I might also add here that Flavius Josephus wrote in his "Jewish Antiquities" about a man named Jesus who had a brother named James and a mother named Mary who lived at about the same time as Jesus of Nazareth, and he was not writing about Jesus, son of Joseph, but Jesus, son of Damneus, who was a Jewish high priest in Jerusalem in AD63, removed by Agrippa II, and whose brother James was executed just before the appointment by the high priest Ananus. In fact, the story is that Agrippa appointed Jesus ben Damneus as high priest in a snub to Ananus for the wrongful execution of Jesus ben Damneus's brother, James. Coincidence?

Answer 4

I will watch it if I can, just to get the details. I already know it's bull, and that the archeologists want you to buy the book. How many atheists would sit in on a Christian program tomorrow? You guys are going to watch Charles Stanley?

Can you show me the place in the New Testament where Christians are commanded to incite violence, etc?

When this all blows over as phoney, what are you going to do then. Move on to the next attempt? Tell me something, are you one of those atheists who claimed Jesus never existed, but overnight now say he did?

Answer 5

Well, sorry but they don't have Jesus's DNA, they have the DNA of the people's bones that were buried in the box.

If you were to put any thought into the whole thing, you see it's full of holes. Instead the atheists are so anxious to prove Christians wrong that they are blind to the very logic that is their god. Kind of ironic isn't it?

Several of the coffins had crosses on them. Think about this. These were Christians buried in the tomb. Christians who believe in Christ, who believe in the resurrection...and they are buried with Jesus...the very one that they believe to be resurrected? That just doesn't add up! If they thought he was in the tomb, married with children...why would they have crosses on their coffins? Why would they be Christians at all? Are you all getting the logic here or does it totally escape you now?

There is more, of course, if you choose to see it. Don't be hypocrits...practice what you preach and look at the proof...or should I say the lack of proof.

Answer 6

Lets see, Jesus was poor and even IF his family had a tomb it would be in NAZARETH!
Amazing that people/atheists believe anything BUT the bible and God's truth. They believe SO easily a lie vs truth. Why?
Do you have an inkling of doubt with your non christian beliefs? What if we are right? What if there is a God he has a son that died for your sins and you rejected him? What if? Have you really truly taken the time to investigate his claims? Have you?
There has been many former atheists that have and are now christian. Why?
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Answer 7

I feel great since I know the Truth of the Word of God. For instance I know that that documentary is a cart load of non-sense. Any 8 year old with a Bible could tell you that. . . Perhaps the very words of Christ Jesus will help you determine the Truth abou this matter . . .

" I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death."(Rev 1:18)

Here we discover that Christ is alive. Just exactly as the Bible states in Luke . . . "Saying, The Lord is risen indeed, and hath appeared to Simon."(Luke 24:34)

Now we know the Truth . . . Christ's bones are not in that box!

What part of that do you not understand? Peace be unto you. . .

Answer 8

First of all, we don't have Jesus' DNA as he ascended into Heaven after he was resurrected, and second, this "tomb" they found is someone else's and not Jesus. This is a lie from Satan and everyone knows that. I refuse to listen to such hogwash. Try reading the gospels in the New Testament, that is fact, this is fiction that is airing on t he Discovery channel.

Answer 9

It would be interesting to test the DNA and compare it with royal families to see if there exists a familiy relationship. If true the stories of the Knights Templar, the Christ married to Mary of Magdelene would be proven true. What impact that would make in the way we look at Christianity.

Answer 10

Jesus has no remains on earth, he ascended to Heaven.

As for wars caused by religion, you can thank Islam for that, as it is a religion of the sword. I will thank you to not compare me to some barbaric heathen. Did you know Adoph Hitler was an atheist? Wars are fought for many reasons: liberation, power, land, and greed.