Exodus 20:13 "Thou shalt not kill."
Leviticus 24:17 "And he that killeth any man shall surely be put to death."
Exodus 32:27 "Thus sayeth the Lord God of Israel, Put every man his sword by his side, . . . and slay every man his brother, . . . companion, . . . neighbor."
I Samuel 6:19 " . . . and the people lamented because the Lord had smitten many of the people with a great slaughter."
I Samuel 15:2,3,7,8 "Thus saith the Lord . . . Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ***. . . . And Saul smote the Amalekites . . . and utterly destroyed all the people with the edge of the sword."
Numbers 15:36 "And all the congregation brought him without the camp, and stoned him with stones, and he died; as the Lord commanded Moses."
Hosea 13:16 "they shall fall by the sword: their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with children shall be ripped up."
2007-03-03
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I would say yes. Yes it is.
2007-03-03 06:29:09
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answered by Nameless 4
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Not really, this is a metaphorical poem. It refers to the particular biased knowledge and attitude of the ones to be smitten.
The tongue is the sword of the spirit. By our words we will be judged. Tongue can refer to attitude or form: a sharp tongue; the poet's tongue...
In Christianity when ones eyes are opened it is said that the old personality dies and the new one is born. You know, like Saul sees the light and hears the thunder on the road to Damascus then becomes known as Paul?
Again, the symbol of the butterfly first as a caterpillar, spinning a cocoon and emerging as a butterfly carries this same concept.
The New Testament also describes Christ as a seed which when planted emerges as quite a different thing and much larger than it would have been had it not "died" in the ground.
We understand things from our narrow perspective, from the biases we filter things through. Setting these aside we are free to learn new concepts [such as the metaphor in poetry] which enlarges and enlightens our understanding.
2007-03-03 15:08:31
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answered by marian 2
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"Hosea 13:16 "they shall fall by the sword: their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with children shall be ripped up.""
God's pro-choice?
You'll get a lot of bs answers here. Mostly they just gloss over the shear brutality that they'd never allow their governments to do, but their God not only condones it but demands it and yet they just sweep this stuff under the rug and look to the sky.
2007-03-03 14:30:33
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answered by Anonymous
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You cant just grab scripture without reading the whole story. You, make it sound that God is going to kill a whole nation at any moment. In the old testiment God layed down the law and expected everyone to be obedient. If you werent in most cases God sent a prophet to warn them but in every case if any nation was disobedient God gave them chances to change and if there was no change sin had to be punished even with Israel. God sent other nations to enslave or even a few times to almost completly wipe them off the map. Obviously God doesnt wipe out entire nations now but back then God didnt play games. I believe God still uses war but God doesnt go by the law anymore but grace and mercy. Even in my mind i believe the radical muslims do thing that in the old testiment times they would have been wiped off the planet. But God fulfilled the law when Jesus died, was buried, and rose again. Instead of killing all the unrepentant God expects His Christian to tell all the world of the Gospel. The only 2 choices you have is to believe God is holy just and righteous or a murdering psycho or believe He doesnt exist.
2007-03-03 15:20:52
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answered by Airman_P 2
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Great question!
You are asking about a conquest that God asked His people to accomplish and contrasting that with one of the Ten Commandments.
First, the Ten Commandments served to preserve the people until God could send His Son and the Holy Spirit could then guide anyone willing to accept Christ. To command people to not kill is just good sense as it pertains to day-to-day affairs.
Second, the conquest of the "Promised Land" was necessary for Israel to take its place. The people that were in the land were generally diseased and had incredibly pagan practices. God knew that these cultures were not going to be remotely compatible, so He ordered them wiped out.
Third, if it's an order by God, then by definition it is just. Since He is the origin of what is fair, then He gets to decide. Most of what we believe is consistent is based on our American viewpoint.
Again, great question!!
2007-03-03 14:33:54
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answered by Justyn 2
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Oh, the secret is out, man made the Bible. A little spirituality, a little old world news. Very novel.
Some would argue God has a right to take a life.
Some would argue that a weapon is a tool,
God created nature, and it is a very beautiful and violent place.
Like the Yin Yang of Taoism, all that is filled with good, can be equally as evil.
your experience depends on you.
2007-03-03 14:36:03
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answered by Anonymous
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No, you do error not knowing the scriptures... Thou shalt not kill is thou shall not murder. Murder is evil. In times of war there will be killings. GOD is against all evil and that includes people that are given over to evil. GOD will deal with them accordingly. You are obviously bias against GOD and his word. You can spend your whole life trying to prove that GOD doesn't exist and that HIS word isn't really HIS word and you will get no where. The bible is an anvil that has withstood many a hammer down thru the ages sir and it will continue to do so. Sir bottom line is if you do not come to your senses and realize that GOD is and receive CHRIST as your savior you will spend eternity in hell... This is truth sir it makes no difference if you believe it or not for truth happens whether you want it to or not. Have a nice day...
~GOD BLESS YOU AND LEAD YOU INTO ALL TRUTH WHICH IS FOUND IN CHRIST THE LORD.~
2007-03-03 14:47:28
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answered by wordman 3
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No. Not at all. If you parallel Leviticus 24:17 with Exodus 20:13, you will clearly draw the inference that God is speaking of murder. It was God who instituted the death penalty for murder, and as far as all the other scriptures you cite, tell the whole story-not just what you want to use to defend some position against God. The Amalekites were merciless, blood-thirsty pagans who pissed God off one to many times. Numbers 15:36 happened as an example to the Israelites of how serious a matter it was to defy God's command that NO work was to be done on the Sabbath. Hosea 13:16 is what happened to the Israelites for their ongoing and willful sin against God and His commands. Exodus 32:27 was a really big sin against God because that is the story of how the Israelites, after God had delivered them out of Egypt and Pharoah's cruelty, built a golden calf to worship as a god while Moses was up on the mountain top receiving the ten commandments and the Law of God. Why is it ok for us wicked humans to say,"I'm so pissed at so-and-so", and then kill them, but not God-the Creator? I mean, don't you think that most people who have killed someone else believe in their minds that they did so for justifiable reasons? How many times on those tv shows where they're interviewing a convicted murderer have you heard them say,"The fool pissed me off" ? Yes,- alot of them do regret what they've done, but alot of them don't. The point is that humans kill other humans for "reasons" that they think and feel were justified because the one they killed was considered by the killer to be subject to retribution and revenge for some wrong committed. In addition, as has been the case alot of times, other people who know the convicted murderer agree with him. For example, a man's daughter is raped and severely beaten by three men not known to either the victim or the father. On the day of the trial the father, overwrought with extreme emotional pain, guns down the three assailants in front of the courthouse. We have laws against rape and murder. But if you were on the jury at the father's trial, how would you vote? The point in all of this is that as humans we agree that there are times when it is justified to exact revenge- especially in a situation like the above. How is it ,then, that we charge God with wrongdoing, murder, etc, when He commands justice against murderers and those who willfully defy His holy decrees and commandments? Did God say for nothing in Isaiah 45:9- "Woe to him who contends with his maker?" By insinuating that God is a self-contradicting murderer in the above scriptures, are you going to now take up a position against Him and find yourself contending with Him who has made wreckage out of whole nations and wiped them off the earth? You must have a huge set of nads on you. Good luck.
2007-03-03 15:35:49
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answered by 4everamusedw/humanity 2
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The consequence of the sin is death. The Israelites were given permission by God in certain circumstances to do it. So it's not a contradiction. The Jews believed that God is in charge of death.
It's like saying to your child - "you may not have a cookie" and then later on giving him one. Not a contradiction, but more "this is the time and place".
2007-03-03 14:32:05
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answered by True Blue Brit 7
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It is a contradiction to the sin of killing yes. It is also a historical document and in some parts prophecy. It has no effect whatsoever on my belief in God or my own spirituality.
The Skeptical Christian
Grace and Peace
Peg
2007-03-03 14:30:22
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answered by Dust in the Wind 7
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No see, it's ok because god said so. "Thou shalt not kill unless i say so." That's how it was written on the first tablets but Moses forgot what he learned in his anger management classes and chunked em... God just got lazy the second time around.
2007-03-03 14:29:49
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answered by ChooseRealityPLEASE 6
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