So given that I am going to HeLl, why should I even try? I can't help that I am one of the fallen angels?

Question

sent here by Satan or however that whole thing worked. Some of us fell from the sky and were just cursed to start with. We were/are put here to test the true Christians (who are actually very rare). Given that this is my destiny, what am I supposed to be doing? Why do you guys keep getting on my case when I already know what my destiny is?

And how do people getting off claming themselves to be going to heaven, even though they are supposed to be living in the image of God. I don't see you constantly asking for forgiveness when you sin, both in your mind, your speech, or your physical actions. If you're not living daily for him, you are not going to Heaven. Just because you go to church on Sunday doesn't mean that you are living right and have a free ride or ticket to heaven, right? I mean, you have to live in his image and SAVE all of us. Right? Right? Right? So anyway, what am I, a fallen angel, supposed to do? ....other than help you question your own faith....

Forgive and change us so that we only live in HIS image - which is/has been interpreted in too many different ways. If he leads us to him and helps us find him, why does He allow us to join cults and pick the wrong religions? Why does he help us sin by presenting temptations that would lead us to want to sin or go against what we are taught that He would not like? How do you explain the wine, the incest, and all the sex in the bible? God wanted us to have a lot of sex and enjoy each other's body.

Granted, I would not want to give up a child either, but how is giving up a child - forcing him to be tortured and endure endless amounts of pain supposed to mean more than giving your own life to pay for the sins of your brothers/sisters?

Besides man, in his attempt to control society, who created "God?" (not our Savior, his Father, or however, it works)....

Answer 1

Become a Calvinist. There's a lovely bit of doctrine in Calvanism that would benefit you...

predetermination
2 predestination, foreordination, preordination:

(theology) being determined in advance; especially the doctrine (usually associated with Calvin) that God has foreordained every event throughout eternity (including the final salvation of mankind)

If you're predestined to go to Heaven, then nothing you do here on Earth can mess it up (you will, as preordained, do what it takes to get in), and if you're predestined to go to Hell, there's nothing you can do to redeem yourself.

So do what you want. It won't affect the (eventual, eternal, preordained) outcome.


Alternately, there's always the death-bed confession and conversion.

Answer 2

First, you are not a fallen angel. You're human. You can shape your destiny. So long as you do not seek the Lord, you will not find him and you will have created that destiny.

We were not born loving the Lord. We were no different than you. The difference now is that we chose to seek, with sincere and humble hearts, and we found. You can't seek with arrogance or preconceived notions.

No Chrisitan believes that he is without sin. We know we will go to Heaven if, and only if, we are truly repentent in our hearts AND ask forgiveness. That's a big difference. Lots of people say, "I'm a good person. I have a good heart. That's enough." But it's not.

And as for sinning, I do ask His forgiveness, but I often ask my fellow man for forgiveness, too. As recently as last week, someone from Yahoo R&S emailed me that they thought I had misstated a "fact." (Actually they pretty rudely called me a liar.) I looked it up and I had made a mistake. I repaired my answer and I emailed them and apologized.

The cults are manmade and we choose them. We have free will. Temptation is not of Him, but of Satan (which means "the antagonist"). Satan even tempted Christ on the mountain, but Christ refused.

Answer 3

No one starts as a Christian. We all start in a fallen condition.

It is a choose to become a Christian.
To do so we need to ask God to forgive us and change us so we will stop sinning.

Answer 4

First of all, you are not an angel. That is pride, but false pride.
Second, no one is obligated to save you, you bear your own responsibility before God. No one is going to do anything for you. You have to save yourself! You can curse God, you can curse Christians, but it does not change this simple fact.

Answer 5

In your interpretation we are all fallen, life is about choice not predestination.

Answer 6

The wine, the sex, the immorality in general is used by the devil to distract us from the truth. In the end, sin will destroy us. Yet, through the Lord Jesus Christ we have salvation. Salvation is the birthright of all humans. We alone can accept the salvation He offers so freely. He loves you. He died for you. If you were the only person on the planet, He would have died for you. He did not die for the angels or the fallen ones. They beheld the glory of God and turned away from Him by rebelling. There is no hope for them, but there is hope for you. Claim your salvation. Repent and pray to Jesus Christ. He came to give us life and give it more abudantly.

God's Plan of Salvation

The Bible says there is only one way to Heaven
Jesus said: "I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father but by me." (John 14:6)

Good works cannot save you.

"For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast." (Ephesians 2:8-9)

Trust Jesus Christ today! Here's what you must do:
Admit you are a sinner.
"For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;" (Romans 3:23)

"Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:" (Romans 5:12)

"If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us." (1 John 1:10)

Be willing to turn from sin (repent).
Jesus said: "I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish." (Luke 13:5)

"And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:" (Acts 17:30)

Believe that Jesus Christ died for you, was buried, and rose from the dead.
"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." (John 3:16)

"But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners. Christ died for us." (Romans 5:8)

"That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved." (Romans 10:9)

Through prayer, invite Jesus into your life to become your personal Saviour.
"For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation." (Romans 10:10)

"For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved." (Romans 10:13)

What to pray:

Dear God, I am a sinner and need forgiveness. I believe that Jesus Christ shed His precious blood and died for my sin. I am willing to turn from sin. I now invite Christ to come into my heart and life as my personal Saviour.

"But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:" (John 1:12)

"Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new." (2 Corinthians 5:17)


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If you have received Jesus Christ as your Saviour, as a Christian you should:

Read your Bible every day to get to know Christ better.
"Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth." (2 Timothy 2:15)

"Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path." (Psalms 119:105)

Talk to God in prayer every day.
"And all things, whatsoever ye shall ask in prayer, believing, ye shall receive." (Matthew 21:22)

"Be careful for nothing; but in every thing by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known unto God." (Philippians 4:6)

Be baptized, worship, fellowship, and serve with other Christians in a church where Christ is preached and the Bible is the final authority.
"Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:" (Matthew 28:19)

"Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching." (Hebrews 10:25)

"All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:" (2 Timothy 3:16)

Tell others about Christ.
"And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature." (Mark 16:15)

"For though I preach the gospel, I have nothing to glory of: for necessity is laid upon me; yea, woe is unto me, if I preach not the gospel!" (1 Corinthians 9:16)

"For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek." (Romans 1:16)