Why are right-wing Christian zealots trying to rewrite history in America?

Question

by saying it's a Christian nation. Have they ever cracked a history book? Doesn't every 5th grader in America know that 90% of the "founding fathers" were deists and not christian?

Ah, Mark g: hope you don't teach in my son's school:

http://www.alternativereel.com/conspiracy/Founding_Fathers.html

http://freethought.mbdojo.com/foundingfathers.html

http://skeptically.org/thinkersonreligion/id9.html

"The question before the human race is, whether the God of nature shall govern the world by his own laws, or whether priests and kings shall rule it by fictitious miracles?"
—John Adams, letter to Thomas Jefferson, June 20, 1815

Thomas Jefferson:
"Millions of innocent men, women and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined, imprisoned; yet we have not advanced an inch towards uniformity. What has been the effect of coercion? To make one half the world fools, and the other half hypocrites. To support roguery and error all over the earth."
- "Notes on Virginia"

James Madison:
"What influence, in fact, have ecclesiastical establishments had on society? In some instances they have been seen to erect a spiritual tyranny on the ruins of the civil authority; on many instances they have been seen upholding the thrones of political tyranny; in no instance have they been the guardians of the liberties of the people. Rulers who wish to subvert the public liberty may have found an established clergy convenient auxiliaries. A just government, instituted to secure and perpetuate it, needs them not."
- "A Memorial and Remonstrance", 1785

Answer 1

You are correct. I could not agree with you more. Its sad, makes me sick to my stomach when I hear that crap. What is even sadder is the number of people who believe this revised, history. I should say completely fabricated instead of revised. Do you think the number of people who believe it is directly proportional to the number of people that believe professional wrestling is real?

Answer 2

You have selected a few letters to try and prove your point and you have done a good job of it. But still we are a Christian nation and always have been. But whether or not this country was founded as a christian nation, you can argue against it. But all of our government policy and laws have been based on old and traditional Christian values and the Bible. We celebrate Christian holidays, we invoke Christianity into our court system, and into all of our laws. The question of Homosexual civil unions is a great example of that.

The pilgrims that first came to the new world were Christians and I hope that you won't argue with that. They did not come here to change their religion but to escape the bonds that the King of England had placed onto them. Many were Catholics and did not agree with the Anglican Reformed church views.

The founding fathers purpose was to form their new nation, not free of religion, but for freedom of religion. Assuming that all people had religion.

Today it is the liberals in our school system that are trying to re-write history. Using our constitution to try to make us a Godless nation as if that was the founding fathers intent, which it was not.
Clearly, the words are, "freedom of religion", and surely not, "freedom from religion."

George Washington many times warned about the wording of our founding documents. He said, words to this effect many times, " We must be careful of the wording because a minority may try to use these documents to impose their views onto the majority." Which is exactly what liberals are trying to do now in our country. Non-christians are trying to force the majority, (Christians ), to accept their view, that there is no God and therefore no Christianity. We can be secular and we are but when religion is completely taken out of government, that is God based, then we have a new religion in it's place, atheism. And, although, atheists claim be believe in nothing, what they really are is anti-religion and they wish to impose that view onto the majority.

Answer 3

because of the fact they desperately desire to have faith it. there is surely not something to help that argument. If the Founding Fathers had meant Christianity to be the inspiration for u.s., they might have mentioned so interior the shape. even however, there is surely no point out of God or Christianity interior the shape. They base their declare on the reality that a number of, yet not all, of the Founding Fathers have been Christians. nicely, the Founding Fathers additionally wore wigs and humorous pants. Does that advise u.s. became based on the practice of wearing wigs and humorous pants? lots of the Founding Fathers owned slaves. Does that advise that u.s. became based upon the business enterprise of slavery? The so-called "Christian" concepts upon which they declare u.s. became based are undemanding between the international's religions. ADDENDUM: A be conscious to David (below) - How do you comprehend the writer to which they mentioned became the Christian God? The be conscious "writer" is extremely accepted. it could in basic terms as somewhat been Brahma, the Hindu God of creation.

Answer 4

Before there was Christianity there was torture, burning and killing, stop hating Christians. The reason you do this is because you want to live in sin. This is God earth not yours or those who you claim governed anything America has. You will stand before Him just like we all have to do one day.

Answer 5

The foundation of AmeriKKKa is bathed in blood of: native survivors of the last great catastrophic deluge, 400year enslavement of a "remnant of Judah" read Deuteronomy 28, Amos 9:7 etc, the blood of the Jews of the St. Luis ship refused entry art every seaport being battered annually by storms, and most recently death of unjust wars caused by the greedy pursuit of the seed of Ishmael's oil in fulfillment of Genesis 15:13. Prophetically, they are carrying the torch of the Unicorn, from ancient Babylonian Empire, passed on to the Grecian Roman Empire, through their subjects and now onto the last seed foreseen in the toes of the "Beast" in Daniel's war machinery's vision and the Book of Revelation. I will say no more.

Answer 6

Well, technically, most of those men considered themselves Christians. It is just that they used a much broader definition than is currently used. Jefferson, for example, considered himself to be Christian because he agreed with the teachings of Jesus. He simply did not believe Jesus to be divine, born of a virgin, etc.

You will find the same if you look at George Washington, Benjamin Franklin, Ethan Allen, James Madison, Gouverneur Morris, or any other deist founding fathers. Most, if not all of them, define themselves as Christian. Many attended church. Their beliefs, however, contradict current definition of Christianity.

However, if you look at some of the state governments, the Carolinas had heavy Jewish representation (yes, believe it or not, most American Jews used to live there). Although their delegates to the U.S. constitutional convention and such were Christian (at least by their own definition), they were representing a colony/state in which Jews, Muslims, etc. had rights and a say in matters, right from the start. Granted, their draft constitution referred to Muslims as Muhammadans or such, a term Muslims dislike, but still...

Answer 7

1) Yes over 300 history books, majoring in history, and going to write numerous books on the topic
2) Washington - Episcopalian, and a good one at that.. Adams - Unitarian. Franklin - difficult to say.... Polytheist in youth, anti-Deistic also, then Christian it seems in early adulthood, then Deistic, then after that back to Christian, and upon his death had somewhat Unitarian views..... He is hard to define, his views changed a lot it seems. Jefferson - Unitarian, but close to Deism but I'd say Unitarian and so did he. Madison: Episcopalian. Hamilton: Presbyterian but baptized by an Episcopalian and also professed belief in the Trinity.

The only true Deist in the Revolutionary Era was Thomas Paine, and he wasn't even a Founding Father.

True though, they were not orthodox Christians, but they were far more Theistic than Atheistic.

Answer 8

The men who wrote the Constitution and the laws and fought the war were not the founding fathers of whites in America. That happened in 1620 when people landed at Plymouth rock and signed a covenant with Almighty God called the Mayflower compact. This was the first. The men who wrote the Constitution were the first to begin dismantling the covenant. And so we went down-hill from there.

Answer 9

They are taking advantage of low education-low IQ parts of the population.

Answer 10

You found only one obscure quote from a single American document, and now you want us to believe that the founding fathers even knew what Deism was?

Who's rewriting history, did you say?

You know, I studied my family tree extensively over the last few years, and I've found that in every primary source that I try to sift through, at least 80% of the names are Christian (NT names), and the last name is called the "Christian" name.

As a matter of fact, vital records were always available in Church records!

Why do you suppose that is?