Do global warming critics not realize how stupid they sound?

Question

1. I noticed that people who believe in global warming always back up with facts, sources etc.

2. I noticed that the critics always use two aruments "You're a liberal" or "It's democrat propaganda"

Just because your Wal-Mart shift supervisor tells you it is't so doesn't mean you should believe him.

Myth number 1:
Scientists are inclusive on Global Warming

Fact:
Scientists are in virtual 100% agreement that Global Warming is occuring at a crisis level.

Myth Number 2:
It's a natural Earth cycle

Fact:
It is not a natural Earth cycle. In the last few decades, CO-2 levels in the atmosphere are more than double what they EVER were at any point in planetary history. It wil rise to quadruple that in 45 years. Warming cycles take 100,000 years, not 50. Do these people think they still have a free ticket to pollute?

Get your heads out of your asses!

Answer 1

Stupid, huh? I guess you hear what you want in this argument. Just the fact that Algore and his cronies are so hypocritical about this that it leads me to believe that the whole argument is completely smoke and mirrors masking the true motive behind all of this alarmist talk. Here is what I think, my liberal friend.

While this argument takes more room than is available here, I will try to concisely answer this question. There are a myriad of problems with the whole idea of "human caused global climate change." Sure there is global climate change, it is the idea that humans cause it that is the problem, especially when there is no definitive evidence to support that theory. For the liberal/ environmental movement to say that there is a consensus about global warming is disingenuous... there is never 'consensus' in the scientific community. Anyone with a small amount of college education knows that. Just a few years ago the liberal/ environmental movement was fear-mongering global cooling because of man's activities. Now it's global warming that they fear-monger. It is complete vanity to think that human activity will ruin the planet. The fact is that global warming is not currently occurring (search "There IS a problem with global warming... it stopped in 1998" by Dr. Bob Carter a geologist with James Cook University, Queensland, engaged in paleoclimate research) Amazingly enough he is a 'scientist' quoting 'facts'. What bothers me is all of the hypotheses that scientists put forth as fact. A hypothesis is not fact. You're a smart guy, you should know that.

What liberty and freedom lovers all over the world resist with passion are the foreseeable outcomes of the militant environmentalist movement, some of which are to control individual opportunities and actions, control business, and end private property rights all by regulation from power given to a central government (meaning a majority of citizens get duped into handing over power and authority, even autonomy, to the government by subterfuge). A leader in the U.S. Communist movement, Carl Bloice, said in the McAlvany Intelligence, March 1995, "the environmental movement promises to bring greater numbers into our orbit than the peace movement ever did." This is why Mikael Gorbachev is big into the environmental movement. The old 'peace’ movement didn't work. Now it has morphed into the 'environmental movement', and you have fallen for the deception.

They do this through half truths and lies and you people fall for it. As Adolf Hitler said, "The great masses of people will more easily fall victims to a great lie than a small one." Environmental deception fits the bill. Consider this as a counter argument from the Father of this Country, the great USA, "I hate deception, even where the imagination only is concerned." -George Washington in his Letter to Dr. Cochran, Aug 16, 1779.

That is why conservatives and liberty lovers everywhere question the 'facts' of the environmentalist movement and resist its terrible consequences. Do us all a favor and don't confuse 'facts' with 'conjecture'. Hell, the weatherman can't tell me what the weather is going to be like in a week, so I certainly won't believe that anyone can predict it 10-20 or more years into the future.

Excuse me, but I need to go and burn some long chain hydrocarbons.

Answer 2

No, we do not sound stupid.

About a decade ago, these two brothers made a bet. One said that California would fall into the sea in the next ten years, based on the fault line and scientific predictions. The other brother said it was hogwash. Ten years later, the bet was collected.

Why are some folks so skeptical about end-of-the-world predictions? I'll tell you why. Those of us who are old enough to have life experiences, who have tackled difficult challenges, who have struggled with careers, family, and life in general, know full well that predictions are just that, a guess at the future. We have heard countless stock tips and get rich schemes. We have heard thousands of campaign promises from politicians. And, of course, many EOTW predictions based on the data and opinions of scientists.

What have we learned?

First of all, you realize that everyone who makes public statements are not telling the truth. All hell would break loose if politicians, lawyers, publicists, business leaders and scientists all started telling the truth. If you live to be at least 35 and you run in these circles, you will know. It's not that these people are evil. No. That's just how the game is played. Life is complicated and there's nothing that can make it any less complicated.

Second, plans and predictions almost never come out right. There's too many variables. The more grand and complicated the prediction, the less likely that it will be accurate. It's like trying to win the lottery.

Before you set the world on fire with your burning convictions, allow yourself to grow in years and experience. If at that time you are still convinced, then by all means, please do what you can to better the world.

Answer 3

Denying global warming is incorrect. Here's why.

The idea that 99% of the climatologists in the world are wrong, neglect obvious natural causes as possibilities, or fake the data to get money, or engaged in a massive environmentalist conspiracy, is just ridiculous.

Denying global warming in the face of the overwhelming data is like denying evolution, or that we went to the moon, or saying you have a perpetual motion machine. It's not scientific. It's an "evil conspiracy" theory that has no basis in fact. Major Republican political leaders, including McCain and Bush, accept global warming as real. They don't get their science from Al Gore, they get it from the best scientists in the world. They've heard all the arguments on the other side, and they don't buy them. The US military is seriously making plans for dealing with worldwide chaos, if we don't reduce it.

The data disproving the alternative theories is all over the web. Here's one place where a little of it is collected:

http://info-pollution.com/warming.htm#WEB

Here's the accepted truth about global warming, with major data backup, and having gone massive review. It's actually very conservative, the majority of scientists think global warming will be worse. But this is what thousands of climatlogists all accept as true.

http://www.ipcc.ch/SPM2feb07.pdf

It's understandable why some people deny it. It's similar to other things they (generally conservative) hear from people they don't like (liberals and environmentalists). It's scary because it demands that we work hard to reduce its' effects. But global warming is reality. Denying reality is done all the time by people. But it's a very dangerous way to live.

Answer 4

It's also relatively well known that the oil company Exxon Mobile has bought out many Washington lobbyists, and several of the "climate change critics" scientists.....

Another problem is how the situation is presented. Sure, the media should show both sides of the story. But they make it seem like the scientific community hasn't made up their mind yet, by always presenting climate change facts with critics conspiracy theories. Instead of letting people know that most of the legitimate scientific community believe climate change is real, they make it seem like the critics on the fringes actually have some sort of standing...like it's a 50/50 split....

Really, most people just don't have the facts, and we're honestly not doing a well enough job educating them....

Answer 5

Even more stupid since any business person would pay the ridiculous 1% or less price for the insurance in case of, even if the likelyhood for a company to burn down or go bankrupt is much smaller than the one to head toward global warming (90%). So if the cost is so small why take the risk ? Corporate America is starting to understand it... not like their pathetic republican supporters who think they protect business by risking the earth...

In the scientific community, the US looks pathetic and it´s the reason why I work for China where even the average chinese knows and understand global warming better than the average american.

Answer 6

One of the "Stupids" (me) has this to say:

Militant Global Warmists (like you) engage mostly in circular logic and mutual tail-sniffing (one for all, all for one). They also prefer name-calling to hard facts. I guess that makes me a 'stupid' and you enlightened.

If you dare to face the views of an objective objector (me) to the Global Warming Hysteria, you can see my whole list of reasons why so-called Global Warming (aka Climate Change) is not caused by human activity but rather by human politics.

http://www.blocksandborders.com/nice/gwarm.html

Your rigid, 'scientific' mindset may be bruised, but will probably survive unaltered by the truth.

Answer 7

In 1492 scientists said the world was flat. Huh? How bout that? Now if you excuse me, I gotta bundle up and head out to Wal-Mart.

Answer 8

you mention asses so did i
here is my attack on disbelief


how i envey the bliss of ignorence enjoyed by so many ,
but for how long can one have his head in the sand ,before noticing that your a**s is on fire

Is global warming a man-made menace?

not all there are natural cycles in the planets life
but a lot is influenced by mans existance ,and this is increasing with overpopulation,putting strains on Natural resources and increasing contaminations as well as destructions of essential componants the ensure living conditions for all life forms

some home truths

politicians and scientists who work for politicians have downplayed the facts because solutions are expensive and means change and change effects many people income,and most of the world is kept in the dark of the real things that are going on.


in North Africa,India,Mexico ,millions of people are effected by land loss and desertification


in recent times thousands of people have died because of exessive heat,usually old people.in India ,Mexico and France,
deforestation causing desertification,the desert conditions causing very cold nights and scorching hot days

in china, thousands of what used to be farmers are running for their lives from the dust storms that have burried their towns and turned their lands into dessert,the globe where they were got to hot for them .
and instead of producing food they are now needing it from some where else,and they will drastically effect the world food prices when they start buying water in the form of grains ,at any cost destabalising governments, in some countries ,could be the result
(are you seeing more Chinese around interested in agricultural lands ,we do here in Mexico)

,the Sahara is growing by 7 kilometers a year
and all of the desserts we know are a results of mans actions ,and they are increasing ,not getting less ,in the dinosaurs days ,there were no desserts.

collectively this planet is drying up because of bad farming practices like,over grazing and fertilizers,

as far as the food production is concerned, Global warming or some of its effects are serious,rising seas result in landloss

each degree rise in temperature means 10%crop loss

more landloss because of desertification every year,we have less areble land to produce food ,for an extra 70 million people ,

and there is less and less water (because of deforestation),to irrigate this production ,
and there are less and less farmers to do it..
who are overpumping deep carbon aquifiers
who are plowing more and more unstable lands because they have lost so many million hectares to desertification ,
because of bad farming practises ,such as using fertilizers and heavy machinary or over grazing

RISING SEAS
The northpole is melting ,and we will know it without ice in our life times.
this does not affect the sea level because it is ice that is already in the water.but the melting ice from Green land and the south pole ,are another matter.

Global warming is in theory reversable,but it will mean global co operation between all countries ,and taking into account human nature and the world politics ,it is unlikely that this will happen,

At least not untill we are all in the middle of planetary disastres and it becomes a battle for the survival of humanity every where.

SOLUTIONS
if you want to help the planet ,plant a tree every week ,if everyone on the planet did we we would be able to reverse the destructive processes

reduce carbon emisions,and they are already working on that by alternative forms of energy and regulations on carbon producing materials,aerosol cans,burning rubbish,industrial chimneys,powerplants etc.

the capture of carbon and the production of water and assist the aquiferous manta.

the world bank pays large subsidies for reforrestation to capture carbon and the best tree for this is the Pawlonia

Waterharvesting projects ,such as millions of small dams.to redirect over ground waterflows from the rains into the ground to supply subteranian water supplies.

the protection of existing forrests.

stop building more highways,urban planning to include vegetation stop building cities encourage people to return to the land to conduct their business from there which now has become possible thanks to the internet.

education to motivate people to auto sufficiency by building more home food gardens.

education on environmental awareness
education on family planning to curb over´populaion

Agricultural education and improvements to follow the principals or sustainability and soil management.

more environmental or land ,design to prevent bush fires,such as--fire breaks

,more dams.regulations and control for public behaviour

alternative effeciant public transport to discourage the use of the internal conbustion engine

recicling wastes,limit water use

i am a Permaculture Consultant for the department of Ecology for the regional government in Guerrero Mexico
http://spaces.msn.com/byderule

Source(s) Lester E Brown is the director and founder of the global institute of Environment in the United states .he has compiled a report based on all the satalite information available from NASA,and all the information that has
come from Universities and American embassies WORLD WIDE ,
his little book--a planet under stress , Plan B has been trans lated into 50 languages and won the best book award in 2003.

Answer 9

No, we don't. Do we really? I'm going to ask my supervisor.