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If not, then perhaps you should better research religious groups before claiming to be part of them.

2007-03-02 06:06:32 · 15 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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Its not an idea it is three Beings. I dislike people who try to question Christianity beliefs when they have no background in it at all. Before you jump on someone elses bandwagon of trying to discredit the Christian church. Why dont you read the Bible. I mean really read it. If you read the Bible like a novel you will get nothing out of it. If you read it as Gods word and pray for wisdom your eyes will be opened and you will be free from Lucifer and his fallen angels deceptions and lie. Repent and be baptized. Amen and Peace out............

Edit: Check out Gen. 1:26.I know that doesnt tell you its a trinity but certainly more than one. Then read Gen. 18 most consider this to be the Trinity visiting Abram.

2007-03-02 06:14:38 · answer #1 · answered by powerliftingrules 5 · 1 0

God did. Read these verses. In the first passage, "The Word" is Jesus. Jesus was "begotten not made" BEFORE he came to earth but had to be "made flesh" when he became a human being.

John 1:1-2, 14 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning. The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the One and Only, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.

Matthew 28:19: "Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit".

2 Corinthians 13:13: "The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ and the love of God and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with all of you."

1 John 5:7: "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one." (This is the Comma Johanneum)

Luke 1:35: "The angel answered and said to her, "The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you; and for that reason the holy Child shall be called the Son of God."

What Dave P needs to understand is that they are 3 beings in one. So yes they are seperate entities, but they are all God. They have different roles in our spiritual life. The trinity can be very roughly explained by thinking of an egg. There is the egg shell, the egg white, and the egg yolk. You can seperate these 3 parts but they are all still part of an egg. If you only talk about the white and the yolk but not the shell do you not still have an egg? Looking at the graphic on this page might help. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shield_of_the_Trinity
Steve K knows what's going on!

John 10:30 "I and the Father are one."

Genesis 1:26 Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, in our likeness..."

2007-03-02 14:11:51 · answer #2 · answered by cnm 4 · 0 0

A bit of bible commentary on the other answers:

John 14:16 is anti-trinitarian (and was used by those who questioned the trinity). It identifies Jesus and the holy ghosts as separate beings.

Matthew 28:19 speaks of the three as possibly equal but in no way consolidates them into facets of a trinity.

John 1:1-2, 14 does argue for a binity and was key to the catholic and orthodox schism. The spirit, however, wasn't mentioned and the use of the term "made flesh" contradicts the trinitarian declaration "begotten, not made".

Matthew 3:16-17 is also anti-trinitarian, speaking of all three as having separate existences.

2 Corinthians 13:14 is like Matthew 28:19 in that it does not consolidate them. It is used to give them their basic roles in the trinity.

1 John 5:7-8 is the most elaborate explanation in the bible. Unfortunately, these verses do not appear in ANY version of the text of the bible prior to the sixteenth century. ALL old manuscripts omit them. The were a later addition specifically to give biblical credence to the argument.

2007-03-02 14:12:57 · answer #3 · answered by Dave P 7 · 0 2

The "trinity idea" as you call it, comes from the bible. The term "Trinity", however, is not found in the Bible. I got from the Bible my beliefs about the person and divinity of Jesus Christ, the personality and divinity of the Holy Spirit, and the personality and divinity of the Father. Obviously three separate persons, obviously one God.
The Athanasian creed describes it beautifully, but it is not because it is in the Athanasian creed that I believe it.
Absolutely nothing divine about the word. If people had popularly described it as the "Unithree" instead of "Trinity" that would have been fine with me. The importance is the theology designated by that term.

2007-03-02 14:11:35 · answer #4 · answered by Mr Ed 7 · 0 0

God came up with what you call "the Trinity idea." It's clearly in the Bible and anyone who studies it seriously can't possibly miss it.

1) The word translated as "God" in our Bibles is the Hebrew word "Elohim," which is a pleural word meaning "Gods."

2) God refers to Himself in the pleural; see Genesis 1:26a. There is no evidence this is the "royal we," as some try to argue.

3) There are instances in the Bible where God the Father speaks to God the Son (Jesus Christ, a.k.a. The Word). In Psalm 45:6-7, the writer states: "Your throne, O God, is for ever and ever: A scepter of equity is the scepter of your kingdom. You have loved righteousness, and hated wickedness: Therefore God, your God, has anointed you with the oil of gladness above your fellows." Notice that the word God is actually applied to two different Persons within these two verses. He is addressing God, and after addressing God, he says that another God had anointed the first God with the oil of gladness above "your" fellows. It should be noted that in this verse the first Elohim is being addressed. The second Elohim is the God of the first Elohim. Therefore, it is God’s God who has anointed Him with the oil of gladness. Another example may be found at Hosea 1:7.

4) Then there are Scriptural sources that reference ALL THREE Persons of the Trinity: Father, Son and Spirit:

Isaiah 42:1 "Behold, my [Father] servant [Son], whom I uphold; my chosen, in whom my soul delights: I have put my Spirit [Holy Spirit] upon him; he will bring forth justice to the Gentiles."

The first Person is the speaker, who is seen by the pronouns "my" and "I." The second Person is the speaker's "servant," the servant of Jehovah. And the third Person is the "Spirit" of God. Scripture repeatedly identifies Jesus Christ as God the Father's "Servant."

Isaiah 61:1 is a second example:

"The Spirit [person #1] of the Lord Jehovah [person # 2] is upon me [person # 3]; because Jehovah has anointed me to preach good tidings unto the meek; he has sent me to bind up the broken-hearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening of the prison to them that are bound;…" Again, there are three individuals: the Lord Jehovah; the Spirit of Jehovah; and the speaker ("me"). We know from Luke 4:18 that the person referring to Himself as "Me" is Jesus Christ.

5) Anti-trinitarians use Deut. 6:4 ("Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is one!") to try and disprove the Trinity. However, the Hebrew word translated "one" is "echad," which is actually a "compound one," in other words, it is a unity of several that makes one. Verses that use "echad" include Genesis 1:9 and 2:24. It doesn't mean an "absolute one," which would be "yahid" (see Gen. 2:22, where it's translated "only").

2007-03-02 14:11:48 · answer #5 · answered by Suzanne: YPA 7 · 1 0

The Trinity is a Three headed Godhead the pagans worship as one God. Basically Three head in One body "TRIUNE"; in this case The Father, The Son(Jesus) and The Holy Spirit. Christianity is founded on pagan beliefs and rituals such as sacrifice of human life for another person(s) sins; in this case a man named "Jesus". Email me if you'd like to know more ;)

2007-03-05 00:10:10 · answer #6 · answered by Seeon 1 · 0 0

Jesus did. He taught it in John 14:16 and Matthew 28:19.
It is mentioned in Matthew 3:16-17, 2 Corinthians 13:14, and is evident from all of the Gospels.

2007-03-02 14:09:08 · answer #7 · answered by great gig in the sky 7 · 3 0

The idea of the Holy Trinity was not part of Christianity until around 325 AD. Bishop Arius headed the party which opposed it, but he was outvoted by the party of Athanasius and Arianism was declared a heresy and Arius's books burned.

Those who were expelled became the Unitarians.

All this was centuries after the lives of Jesus and the Apostles. The orthodox view of Christianity which is so laughably considered original by the ignorant fundies is actually the product not of "inspiration by the Holy Spirit" but of votes of mortal fallible men.

Trinitarianism is just one possible position. However, all this need not trouble the fundies since their faith is not centered on God or Jesus but on a book.

2007-03-02 14:17:12 · answer #8 · answered by fra59e 4 · 0 3

It's not an "idea", it's the nature and reality of the creator of the universe. He says so in his word, BTW. (see below)

1 John 5:7 [KJV]

For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

2007-03-02 14:12:28 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

The belief in the Trinity was a widespread belief since the beginning of Christianity.

However, the belief was confirmed as fact at the Council of Nicaea in 325 CE.

As an atheist, I don't trust it, or believe in it, for that matter.

2007-03-02 14:10:33 · answer #10 · answered by Nowhere Man 6 · 0 2

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