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what's the deal with finally finding jesus' remains?

2007-03-02 03:16:23 · 19 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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1) Nothing is new here: scholars have known
about the ossuaries ever since March of 1980, so
this is old news recycled. The general public
learned when the BBC filmed a documentary on them
in 1996, and the “findings” tanked again.. James
Tabor’s book, The Jesus Dynasty, also made a big
fuss over the Talpiot tombs more recently, and
now James Cameron (The Titanic) and Simcha
Jacobovici have climbed aboard the sensationalist
bandwagon as well. Another book comes out today,
equally as worthless as the previous.

2) All the names – Yeshua (Joshua, Jesus),
Joseph, Maria, Mariamene, Matia, Judah, and Jose
-- are extremely common Jewish names for that
time and place, and thus nearly all scholars
consider that these names are merely
coincidental, as they did from the start. Some
scholars dispute that “Yeshua” is even one of the
names. One out of four Jewish women at that
time, for example, were named Maria. There are
21Yeshuas cited by Josephus, the first-century
Jewish historian, who were important enough to be
recorded by him, with many thousands of others
that never made history. The wondrous
mathematical odds hyped by Jacobovici that these
names must refer to Jesus and his family are
simply playing by numbers and lying by statistics.

3) There is no reason whatever to equate “Mary Magdalene” with “Mariamene,”
as Jacobovici claims. And so what if her DNA is
different from that of “Yeshua” ? That
particular “Mariamme” (as it is usually spelled
today) could indeed have been the wife of that
particular “Yeshua,” who was certainly not Jesus.

4) Why in the world would the “Jesus Family” have
a burial site in Jerusalem, of all places, the
very city that crucified Jesus? Galilee was
their home. In Galilee they could have had such
a family plot, not Judea. Besides all of which,
church tradition and the earliest Christian
historian, Eusebius of Caesarea, are unanimous in
reporting that Mary, the mother of Jesus, died in
Ephesus, where the apostle John, faithful to his
commission from Jesus on the cross, had accompanied her.

5) The “Jesus Family” simply could not have
afforded the large crypt uncovered at Talpiot,
which housed, or could have housed, 200 ossuaries.

6) If this were Jesus’ family burial site, what
is Matthew doing there – if indeed “Matia” is thus to be translated?

7) How come there is no tradition whatever –
Christian, Jewish, or secular -- that any part of
the Holy Family was buried at Jerusalem?

8) Please note the extreme bias of the director
and narrator, Simcha Jacobovici. The man is an
Indiana-Jones-wannabe who oversensationalizes
anything he touches. You may have caught him on
his TV special regarding The Exodus, in which the
man “explained” just about everything that still
needed proving or explaining in the Exodus
account in the Old Testament! It finally became
ludicrous, and now he’s doing it again, though in
reverse: this time attacking the Scriptural
record. – As for James Cameron, how do you
follow the success of The Titanic? Well, with an
even more “titanic” story. He should have known
better, and the television footage of the two
making their drastic statements on Monday,
February 26 was disgusting, and their subsequent
claim that they respected Jesus nauseating.

9) Even Israeli authorities, who – were they
anti-Christian – might have used this “discovery”
to discredit Christianity, did not do so. Quite
the opposite. Joe Zias, for example, for years
the director of the Rockefeller Museum in
Jerusalem, holds Jacobovici’s claims up for scorn
and his documentary as “nonsense.” Those
involved in the project “have no credibility
whatever,” he added. – Amos Kloner, the first
archaeologist to examine the site, said the
conclusions in question fail to hold up by
archaeological standards “but make for profitable
television.” -- William Dever, one of America’s
most prominent archaeologists, said, “This would
be amusing if it didn’t mislead so many people.”

10) Finally, and most importantly, there is no
external literary or historical evidence whatever
that Jesus’ family was interred together in a
common burial place anywhere, let alone
Jerusalem. The evidence, in fact, totally
controverts all this in the case of Jesus: all
four Gospels, the letters of St. Paul, and the
common testimony of the early church state that
Jesus rose from the dead, and did not leave his
bones behind in any ossuary, as the current sensationalists claim.

Bottom line: this is merely naked hype, baseless
sensationalism, and nothing less than a media fraud, “more junk on Jesus.”

2007-03-02 03:20:29 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 2 1

I will keep this real simple.

Everyone that wants to say that the tomb of Jesus was found is now admitting that there was a Biblical Jesus - Right? Stated another way - if you want to say Jesus's tomb was found then there must have been a Biblical Jesus. You can not say that Jesus's tomb was discovered and then in the next statement say that Jesus did not exist. You can not have it both ways.

So congratulation to everyone that want to argue that Jesus's tomb has been found - you are now admitting that there was a Biblical Jesus.

If you are willing to say that the Bible is correct that there was a Jesus, and a Joseph, and the Marys (which you are saying by arguing that His grave has been found) then why would you not accept that the rest is true?

How can you logically argue that the Bible is only enough true that Jesus, and Joseph, and the Marys all existed but then not accept the part that Jesus died for your sins and rose from the dead?
The answer is you can not!!!!!
Either the Bible is all true or it is all hog wash. Take your pick people.

2007-03-02 03:22:29 · answer #2 · answered by Craig 2 · 0 1

Don't you think it a little strange that Jesus body was not in the tomb when it was found opened three days later, but all of a sudden they are saying that they found his remains? This is another marketing ploy for some to gain riches from other people's ignorance. Think of all the poor misguided people who are going to go chasiing after this and worshiping something other than their Creator! This is not right, and should not even be considered by true Christians who have faith in God and Jesus and the Bible. Jesus' remains are gone, never to be found by humans.

2007-03-02 03:27:42 · answer #3 · answered by wannaknow 5 · 0 0

I was raised Catholic but consider myself more agnostic than anything and I can safely say: because it´s an incredibly important piece of history. Religions are more popular than any Coca Cola or Mickey D´s. Everybody atleast knows that around them there are many people with different religions. So finding a piece of evidence that might suggest that he was married, is incredible to me, just as seeing new footage of JFK would be. History, a NEW LOOK into a NEW IDEA of what could´ve happened. The people that try to write that off as nothing special, are obviously afraid of learning that there could be a new ´truth´. People want to stick with their first made judgements although that is prejudice no matter what. Education and history and the sciences and theology are ALL important. Most ultra-orthodox religious people tend to think that a physical ´hand of God´ is what really made Adam & Eve. Science says ok, we understand you Pope Pompous mc Gee but we like proof and evidence too. Good luck though. Love and Respect.

2007-03-02 03:29:16 · answer #4 · answered by nassim420 3 · 0 1

WHAT A LOAD OF CRAP!

It's not Jesus's remains! They (atheists and scientists) are lying to try and get people away from believing in God and the resurrection of Christ.

It's like putting on a batman suit and saying: "Look, I can fly!"to the whole world and never really flying!

They can't prove it's Jesus's remains, can they?

WHAT A LOAD OF CRAP!

2007-03-02 03:30:57 · answer #5 · answered by Chellie 3 · 0 0

If you remember the Jews said "say his body was stolen"
If was to discredit his resurrection. But there was no one eye witness account to his resurrection but hundreds and he showed himself to the people for 40 days before ascending to heaven.
they all saw him die on the stake and be tortured so it wasn't just his saying he was the son of God but he proved it.
Satan the devil would love to have us believe that all those people were wrong and not believe the good news about the Christ. But he did in fact die and rose from the dead and was seen by others for 40 days. What would a body look like after over 2000 years? That is so ridiculous.
Right up there with finding Noah's Ark. It happened that's enough/

2007-03-02 03:23:25 · answer #6 · answered by Steven 6 · 0 1

They found the remains of a 1st century person who's name hasn't even been sucessfully translated yet.
And remember that James Cameron is leading this whole thing. He's counting on the gullibility of the sheep out there to make him a LOT of money.
And he'll get it too.

2007-03-02 03:22:20 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

There is no deal, because it isn't real. How could they find Jesus' remains when Jesus is ALIVE! Anyways, that is my opinion, and I am pretty sure that it is the truth. Bless you!

2007-03-02 03:22:50 · answer #8 · answered by wormwoodkid 3 · 0 1

I'm tired of this. These guys haven't actually proven anything and the names Jesus, Mary, Joseph, and so on were very common.

2007-03-02 03:21:05 · answer #9 · answered by charlie h 3 · 1 0

I t is just another publicity stunt and another attack upon Christianity, just like all the others over the past couple of years.
No proof that was not fabricated by secularist trying to destroy Christinity out of Bias and hatred

2007-03-02 03:21:33 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

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