A Question for Christians?

Question

You say your God knows all, so before creating Adam and Eve he knew they would sin, and in turn on Judgement Day Billions of people would be sent to hell and would get tortured for the rest of eternity.(many peaceful people are not Christians eg. 1 Billion Hindus, 600 million + Buddhists etc.)
So is your God such a entity who knows that at some point Of time would create a creation Whose many(billions) of Sons he knows in advance will suffer eternal pain.
Would he create a creation for whom he knows
one day HIS OWN SON JESUS WILL SUFFER very much.

No human father would create a ROBOT if he knew in advance that the ROBOT would torture his son.(In context to the fact GOD creating humans while knowing humans would torture his son JESUS one day)
Why Not Create A Creation Which Was As Perfect As Him (GOD)

Atleast I know that no KIND HUMAN BEING if granted the ability to create would create a creation whom he knows he would have to torture in the future.(In context to the fact GOD creating Human race while knowing in advance that many humans would be tortured in Hell).
Tell me would you give birth to your child if you know in advance that when he grows up he will be a mass murder and a danger to society and that one day you would have to kill him?
Kind Parents punish their children again and again when they make mistakes and do not allow them Free will to commit sin for his entire Life and in the end throw them into a pit of fire.

Answer 1

I agree with you. This makes no sense within the construct of creator and created. The act of creation should be an act of love. It is, in physical form, when a man and woman who love each other then create a child to raise in love.

The creation as described in the bible is tainted. It was designed to foster guilt in the created. Enough guilt and you will do as you are told. You will follow the commandments blindly. You will not question even though as a part of the gift of your personal creation, you were given the ability to think.

It astonishes me that some of your answers here speak to free will. There is no free will in this scenario. You either do as you are told or you suffer eternal punishment. Further...

If the biblical account were true, why would it not reflect our reality? Meaning, creation comes from the creator therefore it must reflect the creator. This is evident in the physical creation of a new life. The physical example being, when a baby is born, everyone examines it and states things like, "Oh, she has your eyes! Her hair color is exactly the same as yours was when you were an infant," and so on.

When you examine the bible, the universe, the human race and all life on the planet earth does not reflect the god described in the bible. Portions of that god - yes. But in totality? Absolutely not. Consequently...

If I am a reflection of the divine force which created the universe, why do I love my children unconditionally where the god of the bible places unfathomable restrictions and conditions on his creation? It doesn't play out in any way shape or form in the "creator/creation" equation. It doesn't work or ring true. Therefore it is either false or those that wrote the bible had a very different agenda. One of control and ultimate power.

Answer 2

I would disagree and say that humans are anything BUT robots. We are free-willed self-determined people that make our own choices and by the responsibility for them. Just because God knows what happens in this life, does not mean he predestined everybody to do what they do.

You are making also the age old mistake of calling yourself a child of God when you are not. We are all creations of God, we are not all his children. His children love him and do his will while the rest of creation goes their own sinful way. They have been given the choice to choose God all through the centuries but they didnt want to. Should God force his grace on us? Do you really want to be a believer by force? Because that is the only alternative.

I believe we are best served in life by not judging God but loving him. That is the difference between a believer and an unbeliever.

Answer 3

There is something that I think will make the discussion moot, so I will say it instead of answering each of the questions individually. God has the power to know everything, which is why you can call him all-knowing. He doesn't necesarily use that power all the time, just like a strong man does not lift everything he sees. He decided not to know that a perfect being would go against his own good will, and take 2 perfect humans with him. And hell does not exist, so I think that should pretty much cover it.

E-mail me, if you feel free to do so.

Answer 4

You are angry. And I have no idea how to answer your question . Except that while God is omnipotent and omniscient (all-knowing AND all-powerful) He still gave and continues to give us free will. And he also says that those who seek Him will find Him if they search for Him with all their heart. So I don't really know who will be in hell and who in heaven. I bet that I'd be very wrong if I even tried to guess, though. I kinda think that we are all searching for Him. Why else would there have been and continue to be so many religions since the beginning of recorded history (and probably before they learned to record, as well)?

Answer 5

The questions you ask are just some that make Christianity so difficult for many to accept. To add to it further, it is said that you shouldn't question it, but accept it out of blind faith. It leaves us all so confused.

The only problem I find with your analogies though is equating us with a god who would essentially be vastly superior to us, so what we would do, would not necessarily be what he would do. but then again, we have nothing else to benchmark it against.

I guess most people just accept God as a means of hedging their bets since they don't want to go to hell. Suppose the Christians were right after all then what will happen to me?

Answer 6

First of all, God did create man perfect. He made one request of man, and that was not to partake of the tree of good and evil. Man from the beginning "chose" to defy God.

From that point on man is not born of the flesh automatically "a spiritual child" of God. It takes the new birth and regeneration of our spirit to become children of God. God will always be a just God; however he is also a merciful God and has made a way through repentance and the acceptance of his Son to be reconciled and alive unto Him.

Answer 7

You did not make any question but argued against sth you do not know properly, i.e., you created false concepts about what you think are thinking.

It is not a desireble attitute one should take.

Your propositions on theology are medieval, inconsistent with the today interpretations of Bible (i.e, we read the Bible today in a simbolic perspective, not a literal one, as you seem to do).

Given that you did not have asked anything properly, you'll receice a few answers. I'm sure!

Bye and good thinkings!




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Answer 8

Wether or not you choose to believe in the Lord is your choice, but you see good and you see evil these words came from God and the Devil whom the Lord has created, just as we have jails on earth the Lord has created a punishment for those who do not find Jesus and God , for those who will continue to use their free will God gave them, for serving their self and all their habits, refusing too keep their body clean for the Lord to channel himself through to help others, so this free will he gives too all, it gives us a choice between serving him and others verses serving ourselves and our every whim, Jesus said, "I stand at the door and knock, if any man hear my voice, and open the door I will come into him.

Answer 9

Gods love for us is unmeasurable...In Jeremiah 17: reads "The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it ?". God emptied himself of his Glory and humbled himself to become a human being Jesus Christ .Through the shedding of his blood he paid for the sins of many who heard the word of God and accepted and be lived in him.He is giving you a chance NOT to go to hell. Many people Don't Want to change their lives for God in any way.We are born sinners and will have to answer for our sins standing before him some day.He didn't have to give you a chance to begin with.

Answer 10

MAN TOP SAY THIS IS TRUE THAT HE ALLOWS PEOPLE TO BE TORTURED IN FIRE AND BRIMSTONE ARE A BIG FAT LIE AND PEOPLE SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF THEMSELVES FOR TEACHING SUCH FILTH AND HATRED I REBUKE THOSE WORTHLESS PEOPLE IN THE NAME OF JESUS !! GOD IS A GOD OF LOVE COMPASSION AND JUST AND FAIR JUDGMENT HE GIVES US ALL A REAL CHANCE TO SERVE AND LOVE HIM YOU HEARD ME ALL!!!!!! PEOPLE SEEM TO THINK THAT GOD IS SADISTIC AND CRUEL AND HE SITS UP THERE ON HIS THRONE JUST LOOKING FOR PEOPLE TO DIE SO HE CAN GET HIS ROCKS OFF WHEN IN FACT HE IS WANTING ALL PEOPLE GREAT AND SMALL TO COME TO HIM AND BE WITH HIM TO LOVE HIM AND EXCEPT THE TRUE GIFT HE IS GOING TO GIVE US PEOPLE HAVE PERVERTED THE BIBLE SO MUCH THAT THEY WALK AROUND LIKE YOU SAID ROBOTS THAT MY FRIEND IS IN NO WAY SHAPE OR FORM THE WAY HE STRUCTURED THE BIBLE AND MANKIND IN ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM PERIOD END OF STORY AND IF PEOPLE WOULD ACTUALLY READ THE BIBLE IN THE WAY IT IS MEANT TO THEN THEY WOULD LEARN AND UNDERSTAND THE WAY TRUTH AND THE LIFE THAT LEADS TO GOD AND WHAT HE IS WANTING FOR US THE ACTUAL GIFT OF ETERNAL LIFE NOT SITTING AROUND HEAVEN ALL DAY BUT WHAT THE GIFT IS REALLY ABOUT