Why do evolutionists deny God? Is it ok if I say their beliefs are wrong by raising these issues?

Question

Natural selection: Natural selection is the process by which favorable traits that are heritable propagate throughout a

reproductive population.
But why should natural selection happen? If we are just some kind of machine without any external intelligence, why there

should be a tendecy to get better? Is it possible some intelligent being is struggling to improve itself?

Brain and Mind: Please correct me if I am wrong. Though this doesn't correspond directly to evolution but is related to

more of bilogical science and tends to prove what we are in reality. It seems scientists tend to believe that all our

thoughts consious and unconsious are rooted in our brain. They seem to identify the places where brain get activated when a
specific kind of thought is happening. I would counter that buy saying that brain is just a channel (or whatever we can
say) for thought. If a car has a capability to drive doesn't mean it is itself driving. Some person needs to drive it...

Same thing would be with brain. It is not just a channel for new thoughts but also a store house for already thought about things. For involuntary actions and subconscious decisions like breathing, eating, walking, calcuating basic math etc brain can be directly used by brain. But if a new puzzle or a new challenge is faced some intelligent being has to sort it out and make it a learning process with practice. Again please correct me if I am wrong.

To al who believe that some thing like natural selection ought to happen no matter what itself is like accepting something striving to survive. If we are not something intelligent beings from the beginning why do we even wnat to survive no matter what. We face ntaural calamities, sometimes whther is scary. Still some automatic bodies(thats people disagreeing in god would like to put) tend to survive and make sure there children also survive. Always prefer to survice. Can you think of a computer or a car trying to survive always? Don't say living beings are complicated than machines. This happens even in single celled beings which are definitely less complex than a computer.

DanRSN:
1) Wooly mammoth only explains its fate. My actual question if we assume that we re some automatic beings like machines that originally developed from a chemical soup, why is there a tendency to get better at all. Why struggle for survival. Why should machines care at all. If there was a bad storm or extensive heat, they could have simply could have just gone with the climate. Can you imagine an untellingent sand (if it were) trying to not got washed away by water no matter what?
2) I apologize if I am reiterating the same thing about brain. I wouls still say that brain is just having the capability to do things. It doesn't do. A computer infinitely capable of doing many things doesn't do things by itself. Somebody has to write the programs for it. Programs can be automated presuming a problem. Given a new problem program is to be written again to handle that. Same thing with brain. We learn and keep making things automatic or involuntary.

Answer 1

Many "evolutionists" are Christians. Consider yourself one of the select few who are misinformed.

You need to do a little homework on evolution and what it entails. Once you have the facts, and not twisted misinterpretation of creationist propaganda, maybe you'll have a little elbow room to criticize it.

Answer 2

Favourable traits might take millenia to spread through the population, and are actually more likely to die out. However, some mutants may survive and evolve into more successful species, such as the primates (that includes us, the human race).

It's not so much that certain animals try to get better, it just how things have turned out due to the way the world has changed. For instance, the woolly mammoth died out due to climate change (and our ancestors hunting them), but was a fairly sucessful mammal, and the African elephants still survive. Does god just decide which subsections of a species survive, on a whim?

All processes in the human body are due to chemical processes. In fact it is possible to stimulate areas toward the front of the brain to induce religous experiences. Churches tend to either employ a very calm or very excited atmosphere, because both make participants more suggestible. I suggest you go to science class more and church less.

Answer 3

That is long. I can tell you've read somone else's argument and adopted it.

Natual selection happens because the environment changes. It is not necessarily improvement but being better adapted. Sickle cell is an evolutionary trait to protect against malaria. In countries where malaria is a problem it is a strength. Where it is not a problem it is a weakness.

Over time as the environment changes more and more adaptations occur. If any species isn't able to keep up -- extinction.

The "mind" is a product of the brain. There is a lot of complexity to this and I couldn't explain it on here.... As about it in the psychology section... They'll knock it out for you.

Answer 4

Don't you just love the answers that claim evolution as a fact?

Even the scientists that study earth history and biology know that there are only conclusions as to the theory of evolution.

You see, my friend, we are just to stupid to understand about worldly things. If only we would read some books about these conclusions THEN, we would accept them as fact, even though, the writers of those books state that what they wrote is based on theory.

So, take one good example. Monkeys. If the process of natural selection really happened then why are we here? Natural selection means the survival of the fittest. Surely, even, evolutionists would not argue that monkeys and apes are far more fit then we are. And so why then would there not be apes instead of humans? The ability to climb trees with ease. The ability to use ones feet like hands. A tail to hang ones body weight on. Hair to protect the skin. Sharp teeth. And still have developed the brain power? Natural selection is just not logical.

And, why would there be thousands of different insects, plants, fish, and animals? Most would been long gone by now.

But don't bother trying to argue with the evolutionists because they are smarter then you and I.

Answer 5

"But why should natural selection happen...tendency to get better"
While you have a grasp of the theory, you're giving it a definite spin. The creatures today are not "better" than those that existed in previous time periods, they are just more suited to exist in the current environmental conditions. Natural selection does not make creatures "better", it means that creatures that are more adapted to the environment survive.

Mind and brain, science has mapped brain activity for many learning and/or thought processes, this means that your brain is active when you encounter a new puzzle and various regions "fire" as you work to solve it. In terms of your analogy the brain is not the car, it is the driver.

Answer 6

Natural selection and evolution of animals does not mean that God isn't behind the process. (And it doesn't necessarily mean that humans are descendants of monkeys or apes.) Conversely, animal adaptation does not - in my mind - prove the existence of God.

Your comments on the brain are a bit confusing to me. If your thoughts are not formed in the brain, what are you proposing? Is it your stance that the brain is a channel or conduit for the soul? I would say that the human body is a channel (or vessel, perhaps) for the soul. What is wrong with the notion that thought is formed in the brain?

Answer 7

Actually, the Bible is a historical narrative. not a scientific journal. Assuming the Evolution Theory is true, the Bible's story on Creation actually kinda supports evolution.



I'm sorry.

Answer 8

I believe in evolution, but i in no way Deny God.
Natural selection happens through a very long period of time where living organisms better adapt to their surroundings and habitat.

Answer 9

Ah, finally an easy question. They deny God because His Holy Spirit is not present in them. People block themselves from accepting Him because they belief they can control their own lifes. Once you allow the Holy Spirit to enter you life and literally experiencing His blessings, how can you then deny God?

I agree 100% with your arguments on natural selection and the function of the brain and mind, but there is some parts of evolution that make sense to me (lower class animal and plant phylogeny and microorganisms)

Answer 10

Some evolutionists have the theory that God created us and used evolution to do it.God works in a different time frame to us..a million years is a mere minute to Him.
God and evolution can both be accepted.They are not mutually exclusive.
Jonatho..is correct but still some prats do not like his logic and have given him thumbs down.You can't make a watch just by throwing all it's components up in the air and hoping they will land having made up the watch.A watch has to be meticulously made..the same with animals etc..
All things don't happen by accident..our eyes are not accidentally sensitive to light;our ears not accidentally sensitive to sound.

Andrew w ...'Thay no the is'...is that supposed to make sense...you need more evolution time methinks.

Answer 11

No. The need for a guiding hand contradicts the entire theory. Hell it even contradicts the NAME.

If a pimp forces 2 people to **** against their will, that Selective breeding. If they just do it because they want to, that's Natural Selection.

What guides natural selection is circumstance. Predators, food, what one sex finds attractive, etc. anyone who understands Evolution even slightly should know that.