First off, let's address your second question. Roll a die ten times and write down all of your results. Did you design the first sequence or was it random? Now make ten more rolls. What are the chances of getting the same exact sequence twice? Quite small. But you always get a sequence.
The development of humans, indeed of all life and nature, is just like that. A long chain of events -- some interconnected, many not, some truly random -- occurred that led to a stage we call human. If it happened again, the 'result' would be different. But there would be a result. Think about this carefully, it's an important point.
What is the beginning of a human being? At conception? But all the parts, the sperm and egg existed before, as did all of the nutrients that let the cells divide and the fetus grow. You can take these steps back indefinitely. It's all part of a process that builds on itself.
You can call that process 'God' if you choose, but it is very definitely natural, not 'super'.
2007-03-01 21:38:23
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answered by The angels have the phone box. 7
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1st off, I can't possibly have another bite of the irony here, I mean honestly, I'm stuffed, couldn't have one more tasty bite! (You misspelled "Romeo and Juliet"...does this make you the missing link between monkey and man? LMAO!!! Could I possibly talk you into shedding a tear at that comment to wash this big tasty mouthfull of ignorance down?) BUT, that is neither here, nor there. I'm not really sure if I believe in a supreme being or not, but I do know that if I believed in god, I'd have to hate god, like a dead-beat dad who left his kids to fend for themselves without so much as a christmas card for the last who-knows-how-many THOUSANDS of years. Don't go talking about "natural miracles you see every day" either...if there's a god, he doesn't care about any of us, he's abandoned us, which DOES say a lot about human nature, if we're "made in his image" b/c we act the same way....humans are so superficial that we have to create the idea of a "supreme being" just to scare ourselves into doing what's right or helping someone else out.....and end up perverting the idea into a way to monger everything from money and control, to social status and that oh-so prevalent "holier than thou" self-worship that permiates every facet of modern christianity. You can ask me to prove there is no god, and I can ask you to prove there is, all day long. Let's concentrate on something more important...prove there isn't a tooth fairy, or easter bunny....we get money and gifts from THEM all the time! Or even better, if you really want to engage in some worthwhile debate....tell me why the human race deserves to survive?
2007-03-01 21:34:21
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answered by Doc 4
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Well considering all the randomness in this world anything is possible. Our limited minds unfortunetly can hardly grasp infinity let alone the excepted scientific fact that the earth is over 4.5 billion years old. Why do you even ask for prove you are the one making the extraordinary claim & are unwilling to even consider any other possibility. It is not our charge to prove to you anything If you really wanted the evidence you would seek it with an open mind, just as if I needed god I would seek it with an open heart. Well if you want to live a life believing 2000 yr old theories good for you If you need it to survive do what ever makes you happy I on the other hand enjoy expanding my mind & living in the present, looking forward to the future
2007-03-01 21:36:38
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answered by hate 2
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No, I can't give a water-tight logical proof that there is no invisible deity somewhere. But neither can I prove that there is no purple dinosaur monster who lives on Neptune. Just because I can't disprove these things doesn't put things are in favor of deities nor purple dinosaur monsters. The burden of proof goes on those who are making the claim.
I'm doing quite fine without either deities or puple monsters in my life. If you're telling me I'm in danger because of this and want me to change my whole life around because of this, then you either have to prove it to me or stop wasting my time.
Your arguments come down to the "first cause" argument (which has been logically debunked for hundreds of years, if you do the research), and the straw-man argument of a "random event". I do not believe that I am a product of "random events". I am a product of (among other things) biological evolution, which is mainly driven by natural selection. Selection is the OPPOSITE of "random chance". You're obviously clueless about evolution and how it works.
2007-03-01 21:29:46
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answered by Anonymous
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For a start---out of the 8,000 Gods man has created you failed to mention which God you were referring to.Next---you infer that humans MUST have had a creator--following that logic---who created this God of yours??Finally--it is the theist who makes the claim that a supernatural separate God exists.Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof--therefore it behooves the claimer to prove the claim. True atheists don't claim there is no God---only that there is no proof of any God.
2007-03-01 21:35:17
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answered by huffyb 6
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"I believe in God because everything we see around us was not there before, meaning everything has a begining, so there must be some super being that created all of this."
Congratulations, you have just left the path of logic.
Hmm, I can't explain all this complexity! MUST BE CHRISTIAN GOD!
What about Ganesh, and Zeus, and Zoltar, and Odin, and, and, and. Have you considered they might be the correct God?
Why/why not?
2007-03-01 21:27:47
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answered by Anonymous
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This is a losing argument you can not say that the world was created by a snap of a finger.....If God created everything then why would he create pedophiles, murderers, war, pestilence, poverty, other religions. Yes God gave us all this....These are things I dont understand. So how can you?
This is why Im agnostic.
2007-03-01 21:31:59
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answered by Anonymous
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Hmm if u notice...u always tend to use words like '' i think''...''i believe''...
I call them assumptions and no fact...
Do you want a logical explanation athiest use?
It is UR(religious folks) non-evidence, which is athiests' biggest EVIDENCE....got it?
How can one find proof to unprove something that hasnt even been proved in the 1st place?
lol, im getting betta at answering this particular question cuz this shld be my 10th time answering this same question lol...
2007-03-01 21:31:51
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answered by Anonymous
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*sigh*
Sorry, Sparky, but for the millionth time, the burden of proof lies with believers. You can't prove non-existence.
And when are you folks going to get it in your heads that apes and monkeys are different orders of primates? Humans and apes share a common primate ancestor, but it was only distantly related to monkeys.
2007-03-01 21:29:40
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answered by link955 7
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I think you really don't understand science. Or Shakespeare. Or logic, since it's logically impossible to prove that something doesn't exist. But that doesn't mean it does.
But I'll bite. What would you accept as proof of the non-existance of god?
2007-03-01 21:30:09
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answered by eri 7
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