Are Bush and Cheney "Chicken Hawks" ???

Question

It's now well established that George W. Bush never showed up for National Guard duty for a period of approximately one year, possibly more, in 1972-1973. Despite all the talk about "honor and dignity," President Bush has apparently flushed his down the toilet. President Bush went AWOL!! Cheney himself also received 5 deferments! Both of these men are “Chicken Hawks.”

Bush says he's released all his records...if that's true, then has anyone seen:
Any pages from Bush's flight log
Records from the Flight Inquiry Board convened after Bush was suspended as a pilot
Any evidence of Bush's reclassification into another AFSC after suspension as a pilot
Any photos of George Bush in a military uniform after 1972
Anything at all from any Alabama unit with Bush's name on it
Any copies of form 44a from the Alabama National Guard certifying attendance
Air Force Form 142 (Aviation Service Audit Worksheet) ???

Answer 1

They are 100% chickens, yellow cowards who shirked their duty during Vietnam.

Did you see the look on Bush's face when they told him about 9/11 in that classroom? Boy, was he lost! It took him like 9 minutes before he could get off his chair and go do something.

Cheney is draft-dodger, Bush is no military leader. He's nothing, a twerp, compared to Colin Powell, a REAL hero.

Answer 2

Absolutely they are, for the reasons you mentioned. Even leaving the National Guard debate aside (though it is very clear that Bush did not fulfill his duty there), Bush could've simply
volunteered for 'Nam, if he was so pro-military, as he retroactively claims. The Texas ANG was about as likely to get deployed to Nam as the local 4-H club.

As far as the "C=JD" guy's statement that "That Bush critics have stirred up a hornet's nest over nothing is fascinating when you consider they were silent when Clinton dodged the draft. No one criticized Clinton for that one. "

Um, yes they (Limbaugh and probably 90% of other Repubs) did (criticize Clinton almost every day for the entire 90's) for "being a draft dodger", "how can he serve as Commander in Chief", ad infinitum. Remember all of the REpug squawking about the Black Hawk Down episode in Somalia and their claims that Bubba had no right to send troops into battle because he hadn't been there himself? If you don't remember that, you are either too young or conveniently absent-minded.

So I find it "fascinating" that the same Cons who held out combat service as a crucial qualification for the Presidency during the Clinton Administration, all of a sudden decided it was irrelevant long about fall 2000.

Answer 3

Bush is borderline. He did serve in the National Guard, and although the chances were less for him going to Vietnam, there was still a chance. I also believe he finds the thought of sending others to war at least slightly unpalatable. I have read that he was not very gung-ho to invade Iraq and put a lot of thought into his decision, and was finally swayed by influence by some die-hard hawks in his administration.

Cheney, on the other hand, did everything he could possibly do to avoid military service. He applied for at least four deferments that I know of. That definitely makes him a "chicken hawk", i.e. someone who avoids military service himself but has no qualms about sending others to war.

Answer 4

Have you been living under a rock. The well established facts that you quote have been thoroughly discredited. The top left wing propaganda master lost his job and everyone involved with the fiasco was ruined.

I realize in kook liberal wold that if you tell a lie enough that it becomes the truth but this one is so far over the top that even that rule cannot apply.

I served as a Marine but I do not feel that in order to take an interest in the security of your country that you must have served. Since only 16% of the population served in the military are you saying only we can have a say in the military.

Answer 5

Careful how you use that the term "Chicken Hawk"! There is a book by that title written by a Vietnam era chopper pilot describing the heroic efforts of the chopper pilots in there daily struggle to save our boys on the ground and keep themselves alive. Therefore, I have always equated the term as a heroic term. Where do you get your definition?

Answer 6

The logic behind this argument, not to mention the already debunked facts, make it seem rather immature and uninformed.

The "chicken hawk" smear assumes that one must experience something before he/she comments on it or supports it. Using this logic, if you're against high crime, you must become a cop. Don't like arson? Become a firefighter.

That Bush critics have stirred up a hornet's nest over nothing is fascinating when you consider they were silent when Clinton dodged the draft. No one criticized Clinton for that one.

No one criticizes John Kerry for breaking his promise to release his military records either.

Answer 7

Well, Bush did perform more of his officers legal obligation longer than John Kerry.

That said if your supposition is that if one hasnt served but sends persons off to war than the Greatest Chickenhawk in American History would have to have been Franklin Delano Roosevelt. Under his tenure over 409,000 American Boys were killed, & 600,000 + Wounded. He never served a day in Uniform. He developed the polio which crippled him when he was 39 years old.

His Cousins Quentin, Archie, Theodore jr., Kermit all served in WWI, he could have as well.

Answer 8

Do you have a life? What credentials do you have? The websites that you're looking at are all made by raging liberals like yourself. No, it's not something to be proud of either. Why the hell do you care so much? Because you know you're wrong?

Answer 9

It is very well established that Bush did his time, got an honorable discharge. You links are garbage and your constant posting of this stuff is annoying to say the least.

Answer 10

They could be chicken hawks trying to find Fog Horn leg horn

(( remember the little bird with glasses telling him ..I am a chicken hawk ,and you're a chicken )) ha ha ha

WHY did you not present this to the Federal Supreme Courts during the first elections ..it is always after the fact isn't it ......