So according to my last question on god's love...?

Question

Apparently I must choose during life, due to a crapshot based on subjective opinionated relaity, and then after that I suffer an infinite amount of years, I would write out the zeroes, but instead I'll say this

Google-hex to the power of google-hex to the power of itself

And again, that just begins to explain your suffering

Reality* I mean

Answer 1

That's why it's so important for people to realize their need for Christ while they are living! That's why we as Christians are called to witness to people, to let them know what Christ did for them and what will happen to them when they die if they don't choose to accept them in their life. The Bible says "If you deny me, I will deny you before my Father in heaven." Meaning, if you deny Jesus while you're on earth, He will deny you when you die and are standing at the gates waiting to be judged..

You talk about how it's unfair that we should spend eternity being tortured in hell.. If you think it's unfair, tell Satan that. He rules over hell, not God. God has given us in your words "google-hex to the power of google-hex to the power of itself" chances to accept Him in this life, and if you choose not to, that means that you are giving Satan control over your life. He is the one who wants you to suffer and be tortured..

You shouldn't try to blame God for the things that He is not responsible for.. You yourself control where you're going to spend eternity..

Answer 2

Jewish theology actually agrees with you. THere is no such thing as hell in the way that christians use the word in traditional Jewish thought.

The Jewish "gehenim" (closest thing to hell) is a temporary place where souls go to be purified sufficiently to go to the more pleasant aspects of the afterlife (called "gan eden").

If a person is really evil, then he is not deserving of gehenim, and his soul is kind of caught in limbo, unable to go into "gan eden", and unworthy of gehenim. This is considered the ultimate punishment.

THus, gehenim is actually the greatest good that G-d could have made. In a world without Gehenim, anyone who has any blemish on his record would be in limbo, as he is not worthy of gan eden. THis affords the possibility to the 99.99% of people who are neither entirely good or entirely evil to enter gan eden.

It's all much more complicated than this (levels of gan eden, etc.) but this is the 5 minuite primer on Jewish philisophical thought on the afterlife.

Answer 3

Hellfire & Brimstone is NOT a true Christian belief and IS NOT taught in the Bible.

God tells us where and in what condition the dead are in the Bible, he explains the condition of the dead. Its clear teaching is this: When a person dies, he ceases to exist. Death is the opposite of life. The dead do not see or hear or think. Not even one part of us survives the death of the body. We do not possess an immortal soul or spirit.

After Solomon observed that the living know that they will die, he wrote: “As for the dead, they are conscious of nothing at all.” He then enlarged on that basic truth by saying that the dead can neither love nor hate and that “there is no work nor devising nor knowledge nor wisdom in [the grave].” (Ecclesiastes 9:5, 6, 10) Similarly, Psalm 146:4 says that when a man dies, “his thoughts do perish.” We are mortal and do not survive the death of our body. The life we enjoy is like the flame of a candle. When the flame is put out, it does not go anywhere. It is simply gone.

Jesus Christ spoke about the condition of the dead. He did so with regard to Lazarus, a man whom he knew well and who had died. Jesus told his disciples: “Lazarus our friend has gone to rest.” The disciples thought that Jesus meant that Lazarus was resting in sleep, recovering from an illness. They were wrong. Jesus explained: “Lazarus has died.” (John 11:11-14) Notice that Jesus compared death to rest and sleep. Lazarus was neither in heaven nor in a burning hell. He was not meeting angels or ancestors. Lazarus was not being reborn as another human. He was at rest in death, as though in a deep sleep without dreams. Other scriptures also compare death to sleep. For example, when the disciple Stephen was stoned to death, the Bible says that he “fell asleep.” (Acts 7:60) Similarly, the apostle Paul wrote about some in his day who had “fallen asleep” in death.—1 Corinthians 15:6.

Does your religion agree with what the Bible teaches about the dead? Most do not. Why? Because their teachings have been influenced by Satan. He uses false religion to get people to believe that after their body dies, they will continue to live in the spirit realm. This is a lie that Satan combines with other lies to turn people away from Jehovah God. How so?
As noted earlier, some religions teach that if a person lives a bad life, after death he will go to a place of fiery torment to suffer forever. This teaching dishonors God. Jehovah is a God of love and would never make people suffer in this way. (1 John 4:8) How would you feel about a man who punished a disobedient child by holding his hands in a fire? Would you respect such a man? In fact, would you even want to get to know him? Definitely not! You would likely think that he was very cruel. Yet, Satan wants us to believe that Jehovah tortures people in fire forever—for countless billions of years!

Satan also uses some religions to teach that after death people become spirits who must be respected and honored by the living. According to this teaching, the spirits of the dead can become powerful friends or terrible enemies. Many people believe this lie. They fear the dead and give them honor and worship. In contrast, the Bible teaches that the dead are sleeping and that we should worship only the true God, Jehovah, our Creator and Provider.—Revelation 4:11.

Knowing the truth about the dead protects you from being misled by religious lies. It also helps you to understand other Bible teachings. For example, when you realize that people do not pass on to the spirit realm at death, the promise of everlasting life on a paradise earth takes on real meaning for you.

The only hope we have for a life 'after death' is in the resurrection.

Answer 4

How dangerous is faith, anyhow?

It is important to understand how faith is a sentiment that, like all emotions, can lead one to irrational behavior. Emotions left unchecked by reason are dangerous. You can never be a reason-extremist and cause any harm to yourself or to others, but you can easily be a religious extremist and cause lots of problems.

Morality has to be discovered by reason. One cannot be moral by faith. One has to know what is for life and what is against it. Such knowledge can come only from reason.

Logical reasoning is the only tool we have to help us distinguish true from false and right from wrong. That's why logical reasoning is what makes it possible for one to be moral or immoral. One cannot be moral if one is irrational.

Answer 5

Hey, if we didn't have suffering would we know what good times are? I do know that I have had more days of no suffering than days of suffering. Its not a crapshoot, its about making yourself availiable for others that determines ones suffering. Be open and caring and suffer less.

Answer 6

Only the abrhamic death cults of Judaism, Islam and Christianity believe these horrible things about god.

Try paganism and you will find a loving god who dances with his children and would never put them in his "spiritual oven".

Answer 7

I guess this does not answer your question but what happens if you are an infant (like susan smith's kids)
Do you get to go 'up' even if you didn't 'believe'...
if she asked for forgiveness while she is in her cell, would it be possible for her to 'go up' too?

Answer 8

Yep. You get infinite punishment for a finite crime. And this is what God calls justice! What a barbaric belief.

Answer 9

Oh you breaking my heart.