Coffman's Commentary
1 Thessalonians 4:17
Then we that are alive, that are left, shall together with them be caught up in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
Caught up in the clouds ...
"The Greek word for `caught up' is rendered as "raplemur" in the Vulgate and other Latin versions, whence the event is sometimes called `the rapture,' or snatching away of the saints." F33
2007-02-28 08:10:53
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answered by deacon 6
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The word "Rapture" is not found in the Bible. There is also no single word used by the biblical authors to describe the factors which comprise the doctrine. Its formulation has come about by means of induction from blending biblical passages concerning the second coming (and the role that Christians will play in that event) have been inductively blended together to establish the teaching. The modern expression "Rapture" was then invented to explain the overall teaching. The doctrine of the Rapture is not mentioned in any Christian writings, of which we have knowledge, until after the year 1830. If the doctrine were so clearly stated in scripture, it seems incredible that no one should have referred to it before the 19th century. It originates with a deathly sick Scottish woman named Margaret MacDonald who supposedly came under the power of the Holy Spirit and revealed the nature of the Coming of Christ to the first specifically Pentecostal church. This was popularized by John Darby and his follower Scofield (for whom the famous reference Bible is named).
2007-02-28 08:04:25
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answer #2
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answered by Anonymous
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I am under the impression the actual term "rapture" is not any where in Biblical verse. It was eluded to by certain individuals, probably wanting to scare the flock into giving more tithing's and only becomes popular b/c of intent or innuendo. The same is true for the "damnation, fire and brimstone" ideals, no where is hell even mentioned as an alternative to non belief in Biblical verse but rather as a result of specific lifestyle choices. Hell and the rapture are hinted at but not speifically described.
2007-02-28 08:00:46
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answer #3
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answered by Anonymous
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It's not. There are references to Jesus coming back "in the twinkling of an eye", which have led to the theory of "rapture". But I believe the church will have to go through the tribulation like Revelation says, then Jesus will come back "in the twinkling of an eye". One of the reasons people hold to a rapture theory is that they think that the marriage supper of the lamb will occur during the tribulation; that God would never want His church to have to suffer through it. But several of Jesus parables refer to both the righteous and the wicked being plucked at the same time at the end of all things. He also talks about being saved "as though through fire" suggesting that the Church will be judged and purified just as the non (or pre) believers.
2007-02-28 07:58:07
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answered by girlpreacher 2
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No such word as rapture, nor thereafter, in all the Bible.
It's too late for any pre-mid-post trib rapture theories now.
Only thing available unto all is endure unto the end written.
The last (not just past) millennium tried and failed to false end with Y2K, and there was notably a 3 1/2 yr (42 mo) countdown which began in June of 1996 at Grenwich. Go figure.
http://www.godshew.org/RevelatorySermons8.htm
It's not "time past", nor even the "last days"(plural) any longer, but rather now "the last day"(singular) beyond 2000AD. For the prophetic "third day" is also the seventh day when counting the days in John 1 & 2:1. Let him that hath understanding count.
http://www.godshew.org/ThirdDay.htm
http://www.godshew.org/RevelatorySermons19.htm
As for Revelation allegory, it notably takes place on the Sabbath (seventh day), which is notable by the 'seven' benedictions therein such book of prophecy x 7. For on all other days there are 18 such spoken by priest within and people without the tabernacle.
http://www.godshew.org/Revelations4.htm
Question is, how far do many deceived by many wanna go into Revelation before doing a hyper jump to the end; For after the two beast law<-law of Rev 13 all hell breaks loose, and the season they want for such law law is a thousand years.
There's also two Sabbaths at Easter to sort out,
one being called high, and the other being higher.
http://www.godshew.org/Easter.htm
Hint: mind not high things: Romans 12:16
There's also 2 mentions of "finished" in Jn 17 & 19.
The human race is won by the one first "finished".
As for the 2nd, James 1:15 says it brings "death".
http://www.godshew.org/HumanRace.htm
As for the two options: "no escape" and "escape", see 1Thess 5:3 and 1Thess 5:9 to note "no escape" sort of destruction is what happens to "them", escape it for "us", "escape" being via "give more earnest heed" to what's been said, noted in Heb 2.
http://www.godshew.org/RevelatorySermons32.htm
So, if I were still one of "them"(male and female Adam: Gen 5), either a scape-goat on the left side or a dumb-sheep on the right side of a sides war, I'd be converting to one of us, and asap. For what the Son of man notably has for both, in Lk 17, is destruction.
Which is to allegory say conversion is from law to grace.
Which is also to say from good/better sacrifices to merciful.
http://www.godshew.org/ShewBread2.htm#inthem
It's all "allegory" in both "covenants": Galatians 4.
It's also "mystery" to solve, noted over 20 times.
The mystery of his will is only made known to "us".
The God given victory is notably also given to "us".
That is why the Lord is l-o-n-g-suffering to us-ward.
http://www.godshew.org/Usward.htm
Bottom line is no rapture for either of them vs them.
What comes upon them is "no escape" destruction.
For the bottom of the "terror" barrel is their law law.
The GRACE of our Lord Jesus Christ with you all. Amen.
2007-02-28 08:45:05
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answered by Anonymous
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The Bible does not teach that there is going to be anything called the 'Rapture' What the Bible does teach is that Christ is going to return, the dead in Christ will be raised first,and then those who are alive 'in Christ' will meet him in the air.All of this comes from 1 Thess. 4:13-18
2007-02-28 08:06:40
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answer #6
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answered by josie 4
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There is no such thing as the Rapture. Yes, it was made up at sometime.
What happens is Christ comes for the Final Judgment and then all of creation is made new.
If there was a rapture He would have to come two remaining times. He comes once more and the show's over.
The link below explains very well what happens.
2007-02-28 07:57:19
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answer #7
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answered by on_the_bb 2
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The Book of Revelations.
2007-02-28 07:54:10
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answered by Anonymous
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I Thessalonians 4:13-18.. the word rapture isn't used.
I believe it's also in I Corinthians.. chapter 15 if I'm not mistaken.
2007-02-28 07:54:05
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answered by Kallan 7
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The word "rapture" isn't actually used but I think it is more implied. Read the Book of Revelations.
2007-02-28 07:56:32
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answer #10
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answered by Kassie 2
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