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I have a 12 month old bullmastiff who despite all measures to stop, she will just not learn. She sleeps in the kitchen and almost EVERY morning I will wake up to something or BOTH. I will do the very basic things like rub her nose in it when she does (and she knows 'cause she "sulks") and give her treats when she does it outside. But I am clean out of ideas, this is urgent as I have a baby on the way and of course faeces on the floor is NOT a good thing, I don't want to get rid of her but family comes first, so this is my last resort. She will rarely do it in front of us (unless shes desperate I guess) she went through a phase of not doing anything for like 3-4 days but then done a complete 180 and started again. Please Help Me!

2007-02-28 06:38:34 · 17 answers · asked by Anonymous in Pets Dogs

Just an update, I take her out at least 4 times a day and then one more right before I go to bed roughly 11pm but no matter what she does outside she still manages to go. I do mean 12 months. If I had a garden she would be outside - no questions asked and last but not least I feed her once a day aswell has giving her water in the morning around 10pm and THATS IT.

2007-02-28 10:30:32 · update #1

I meant 10am

2007-02-28 10:31:31 · update #2

17 answers

You need to crate her. Let her know that if she can't hold it, she has to sleep where she will. And then in a couple weeks, give her the kitchen and if she goes again, put her back in for a night. Until it works...they need a crate that they sleep in because she wont want to sleep with her own messes. That is why they learn to hold it throughout the night.

2007-02-28 06:43:19 · answer #1 · answered by dave k 3 · 5 1

Crate train her. It will fix the problem. Get a crate that is just big enough for her to stand, turn around and lie down in. Continue to take her outside for potty braks as you have been doing, but any time you leave the house or are sleeping, she goes in the crate. If you inroduce the crate as a nice comfy place to be (with some special toys and even treats at first) She will like going in the crate. It will be her "den" where she feels safe. Dogs won't go where they sleep, so the crate will keep her from eliminating while she's in it. Make sure you give lots of praise and attention when she goes outside. make a HUGE deal out of it. If she does soil the create do not punnish her. even if she has an accident in the house, do not punnish her. If you happen to catch her in the act, make a loud yelp (it will suprise her and stop the stream) and take her outside, and then praise praise praise when she does it in the right spot. some of the problem you may be having is that you are rubbing her nose in it. I made that mistake with our first dog before I knew better and did some research. all that will teach her is to hide her "mess" from you. she will not understand that going in the house is not what you want, she will just think you want it hidden, which sound like what is happening. Once I figured out it was what I was doing with my first dog, and fixed the ways I was dealing with housebreaking, it went so much better. with my second dog (an english mastiff...so yes I understand how unpleasent horse size dropping can be :)) I did it right from the get go, and no problems what so ever. trust me, get a crate, use only positive reinforcement, and abandon the rubbing her nose in it and punnishing for what you are finding rather than correct what she is doing, and you should see some real improvements. look up crate training on the internet for more detail and a step by step process. Congrats on the baby btw! and with some time and new techniques, your dog and family will get along just fine!

2007-02-28 15:15:43 · answer #2 · answered by **0_o** 6 · 1 0

The good news is that you can definitely house-break your Bullmastiff. The bad news is that you'll need to go back to square one with her. Crate training is generally recommended for house-breaking, as a healthy dog will generally not soil their sleeping quarters (den). However, with a big girl like you have, the crate would have to be very large (and maybe costly). A crate is best, but alternatively try enclosing a space in her quarters that is big enough for her to turn around in but not bigger. The problem is that the kitchen is large enough so that she can regard part of it as her quarters and the other as her bathroom area. Next, first thing when you get up, take her out to a designated area where you want her to go, and give her some encouragement with a designated word ("go on", "go potty", etc). Stay with her till she does. Praise her effusively RIGHT away when she starts going--try not to let even a second go by, so she recognizes that location as the approved bathroom area. It'll get easier, you'll be amazed. Stick with this postive reinforcement. Do this half an hour to an hour after she eats, right after a nap, or every hour or two during the day when she is not in her crate area. Never leave her unattended--if you need to put your attention elsewhere, put her in her crate (do not knuckle under to her pathetic cries! she'll settle.).

Pushing her nose in it is a bad idea. She doesn't put the location together with her elimination--she only knows you're mad that she eliminated, or mad at her in general--not what you want. She "sulks" to show you she is lower than you and that you are indeed the boss. (Also, negative reinforcement is much harder to use effectively for training than praise, some say impossible, and can undermine the bond you are forming with her.) Because you've done this in the past, it may take a while for her to be comfortable doing it in front of you in the yard, but be patient. Dogs generally do not like to "go" in their living space (your house), but do so if they haven't a choice (like in the kitchen if she has to go). A healthy full-grown dog her size can hold it for a pretty long time if necessary; however, try not to leave her in the crate during the day for longer than 5 hours or so, and later on down the road, for more than 8-10 hours.

A word of caution: do not use the crated area for punishment, or she will not be comfortable in it and will stress when you put her there. She should regard it as her denning area, a place to be safe in. Good luck!!

2007-02-28 09:40:11 · answer #3 · answered by brigida 2 · 2 0

I have 2 Beagles, one from a pup, and it took him a good 2 years to be able to go through the night. You need to make sure you restrict her water intake for a couple of hours before bedtime. Try and get her into a routime regarding no 2's, so she won't need that during the night. My dogs always want to go first thing in the morning, and not long after they have eaten - I feed them once a day. I have them sleeping in the bedroom, partly because of this problem. A bit like a baby, I would here them 'mooching' about, and get up and put them out. Didn't do alot for my sleep, but worked in the end. Eventually they stop mooching. The eldest dog can go to bed at 9.30, and still not want to go 2 hours after we've got up - he can hold it better than I can !!

2007-02-28 06:52:26 · answer #4 · answered by wenders 1 · 1 1

If you have a yard/garden before you go to bed put him/her outside for 15-20 minutes.
if she goes to the toilet praise her and make a real fuss, hopefully after a few days she should learn that she has to go before you go to bed and that she needs to cross her legs until you get up.
Don't make a fuss if she does have an accident because then she will learn that she gets attention for the wrong reason.
We have a nine month old bull mastif but we have had no problems with her (touch wood) and that is what we do. although we do have a jack russel who is the same age but is taking slightly longer than her to learn.
Also if you fill a small plastic bottle ie (water bottle or a 1 pint milk bottle) with a few barley beads or lentils then when they are noughty shake it hard next to them and say no in a stern vioce. the noise frightens them.

2007-02-28 09:47:41 · answer #5 · answered by p3tenerife 1 · 0 1

Rubbing her nose in it does no good what so ever and may even make her afraid to go thus doing it while you are away or trying to hide it. I suggest instead of giving her the entire ktchen at night,go back to a crate. She will not go in the crate as llng as she is in it and can physically hold it. You need to put her on a schedule and perhaps feed and water earlier in the evening. Take her out and lavishly praise and treat when she does go outside. There is no use in punishing after the fact. If catch her in midstream or poo calmly redirect her outside and praise her for finishing outside. It takes persistance and consistency on your part. She will eventually get the hang of it. On a side note, if the baby doesn't get toilet training quickly,will you rehome it too? After all,this dog is also a part of the family.

2007-02-28 06:47:16 · answer #6 · answered by W. 7 · 3 2

Try kennel training!! Go buy a large vari kennel, when it is bed time or you are going to be gone put the dog in the kennel. when you take the dog out it is right outside!! If the dog goes in the house show him the spot punish him, then take him outside and when you bring him back in put him in the kennel for a half hour!! You have to keep up on this!! It works every time!! I aways use this to train out puppies!! After a while you will be able to get rid of the kennel!!

Good luck
Look for information on kennel Training or Vari Kennel training that is what this is called

2007-02-28 06:44:35 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 2 1

Heres what to do: a million. Get a crate. The crate would be her very own little den, so she will no longer soil it. whenever you're no longer together with her, placed her in her crate. 2. as quickly as you come back from artwork/shops or in spite of, bypass exterior together with her, and wait together with her till she relives herself. supply her lots of compliment, then, if she is going to be on your sight, take her in, if no longer, crate her. 3. in case you capture her interior the act interior the domicile clap, stamp or do something to charm to her interest then tell her in an fairly employer, low voice: NO. and right now take her exterior to accomplish. compliment on overall performance. 4. she will exceedingly much genuinely carry out straight away after feeding, so thens a good time to bypass out together with her for a couple of minutes, so which you will compliment her genuinely. i could propose against wee wee pads or comparable, because of the fact they prepare your dogs to accomplish, confident in a definite place, yet nevertheless interior the domicile, which I doubt you decide on for. The habit could properly be very stressful to break. good success! It shouldn't take long, as Chihuahua's are so clever!

2016-09-30 00:42:55 · answer #8 · answered by elzey 4 · 0 0

NOOOO DONT DO THAT! Dont rub her nose in it, this will make her look giulty because of your tone of voice. You have told her off so she will look subdued, she wont relate this to the mess. The reason she doesnt go in front of you is because you tell her off-( so there may be more mess hidden!) you PRAISE good behaviour and IGNORE bad behaviour. Puppies need to go to the tiolet most usually as soon as they wake up, after a meal/drink and before they go to bed. The best thing to do is to get up before she does and take her out to the garden or a walk-then PRAISE her with lots of fuss and a treat when she goes.Do this after her meal as well. It is going to be harder as she is not a young pup but it will be worth it if you dont want to get rid of her.

2007-02-28 09:06:49 · answer #9 · answered by lil kell_ILRVE 1 · 1 1

It seems like you are saying she does this at night. Take food and water away from her completely about 2 to 3 hours before you go to bed. And take her out as you are on your way to bed and let her out for about 10 minutes so she can do her business. This should help if not crate her at night when she has the problem with potting in the house. Also clean up her mess with bleach water solution.

2007-02-28 06:46:59 · answer #10 · answered by stacy g 4 · 3 2

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