Ias qnyone else also sick of this popular "logic" of pro-criminals?

Question

Just a debate down there -

Q: Our ancestors came here, So other people can come here as well.

A: Ancestors came into uncivilized land and colonized it. It was uncivilized, undeveloped and barely inhabited.

Q: Noone complyed with immigration laws back then, they came w/o visas.
A: Hello, there were no laws, no constitution of native america. The land was Conquered, period. Native amricans resisted colonization and actually killed bunch of britons. Should we wage a war against Mexico, following this logic.?.


And since Mexicanos so much like to migrate, why dont they migrate to the south???..To "Colonize" central amerika, Just to be like owr ancestors (Actually not mine, heh). But yeah!

inkjetset..: You are being ridiculous. If you conquered something its yours. And you make the laws. Should we give the land back to dinosaurs???.. I mean they were here 300000000 years ago. Or may be to some bacteria???.. Or may be to nothingness. About Planet yes, if you conquered it its yours.

Alberto: Native resisted occupation, and so are we. Whats the problem???.. Why dont you move to teh south. You are not needed here. Period.

Pamela Quote " How SAVAGE of them to defend their homes! " Well How Savage of us to defend our country from invasion???. .. You are embarassing yourself.

Pamela (2) : I understand from your last rant, That you are saying that mexican Invasion is punishment by god for owr crimes against Native Americans??? Well I Can Agree with you on this!. Its a punishment all right.

Answer 1

Loud round of applause! Thank you very much for your input - I agree with you completely! Very good logic and well thought out!

Answer 2

I am not sick with the logic you presented as a question. I am sick of the statement that the land was "UNCIVILIZED, BARELY INHABITED". Like we needed to be taught how to live. There were millions of us here, not that it matters now, I don't know if reducing our numbers helps to lessen the casualties of said conquering and colonization out of guilt, or if it comes from an uneducated guess. Whatever the problem is, I know that I am sick of natives being used to make points in this debate, on both sides, more than anything.

Answer 3

Yes illegal immigration is a huge problem but nothing will change until our politicians have the political will to do something about it. And they won't because business profits from cheap labor.

BUT
Your non logic is more ridiculous than most I have seen on here.
if you (theoretically) go to another place and find it uncivilized, undeveloped and barely inhabited its OK to steal it from the creatures or people that are already there. And to you It is alright to do so because you need, want or think you can make better use of it.

So why are you crying that the Mexicans are taking over. If they conquer America in their own way whether through legal or illegal immigration then it its theirs to take and keep. according to you. You contradict yourself.

Talk about being even more ridiculous is your illogical example about the dinosaurs. There are no dinosaurs to give it back to.

Answer 4

No.What I am sick of is people thinkling all the illegal immigrants come from Mexico.All I ever see on this site is Mexican-bashing up the yahoo(no pun intended).I never see anybody get as passionate over Bosnian illegals,or Chinese.I am also tired of people using the Native-Americans as examples for what is going on now.Those colonists nearly annhilated the Indians.The Mexicans are just pi$$ing a whole bunch of American people off.

Answer 5

OK, who are we again to say that the Native Americans were uncivilized? By whose standards did we determine that? You mean because they didn't have railroads & skyscrapers? Because (gasp!) they didn't speak ENGLISH?! Because they didn't wear three-piece suits & top hats? Because they dared try to DEFEND their land and kill the people who were trying to kill them and take the land from them? How SAVAGE of them to defend their homes! Our ancestors used their own justification to do what they did and the Mexicans use theirs. The laws of the Native Americans were not even considered because they weren't "written." Pieces of paper seen so very important to White people.

You know we may choose to conveniently "forget" the past. We may try to lamely justify it. Regardless, God is keeping score. The Bible says the children will pay for the sins of their Fathers. But I suppose you think God's word doesn't apply to us either. After all we're WHITE & untouchable, right? Regardless of our own humble opinions it seems what goes around comes around.

By the way, I see now why you're so upset at me pointing out spelling and grammatical errors. "AMERIKA?" Shouldn't you at least learn to SPELL the name of the counry you are trying to defend?

EDIT: So go back home. I'm sure the Natives wished they had somewhere to go back to when your ancestors came over & slaughtered them & destroyed their way of life. Go back to England or wherever your ancestors came from. Make way for the new wave of immigrants. Be thankful the Mexicans aren't treating YOU the same way your ancestors treated the Natives. All things considered I think we have it pretty good. I still have my home. I still have my life. My family hasn't been killed by any Mexicans. Few Native Americans could have said the same about YOUR ancestors.

Answer 6

Answer to your questions:

1. Uninhabited? What do you call the Aztec, Mayas, Incas, Chichimecas etc. That is considered a habitat nation. Great one I will add. Mayas invented the "0" digit which all computers including yours which you use to spill your racist hatred here is based on.

2.Well as far as conquer goes, who said we need to shoot one bullet to conquer a nation. Following this logic?

3. Your argument doesn't make sense and your grammar skills are just way off. Try again.

Answer 7

A lot of people also don't understand that this is a slap in the face to the people who immigrate here legally.

Answer 8

Logic is wasted on bigots. Bigots tolerated the criminal hiring of undocumented workers for decades now. Bigots and U.S. business owners who broke our nation's laws in these matters are the "pro-criminals". While bigots were tolerating these crimes for decades and tolerating the formation of a sustained second-class citizenry and allowing foreigners to be hired for poverty level wages just to avoid paying American workers a legal and decent wage, N.A.F.T.A. and the North American Union forged ahead without public or Congressional oversite. Because of bigots who tolerated the criminal hiring practices of U.S. businesses, the U.S. middle class is now in danger, our communities have been weakened by a second-class/poverty-waged paid growing segment of our communities and businesses didn't have to pay their share of taxes to pay for those people's social services, such as schools. Droolers are most easily duped. Mexico, the U.S. and Canada are now the North American Union and the only people who are going to be "migrating" are middle class Americans to China looking for jobs. Is that logical enough for you?

http://www.commondreams.org/views06/0308-20.htm
http://www.freedom.org/naugreen2/player.html

Answer 9

your right, we didn't have immigration laws then. but that was then and this is now. we have immigrations because of deceases they bring with them, did you know in the 1800's when people immigrated here, if they had health problems they was sent back to where they came from? that went for the whites to. but like i said that was then, this is now. we have our laws to go by. if illegals keep getting away with what they are doing then americans can start using the race card to.

Answer 10

i have to agree with you on this. what happened when our ancestors started coming has nothing to do with what's going on now. we have our laws. we have the immigration laws for a reason. you can't tell some folks the truth, they will always argue with you like a drunk does.