Filmmaker James Cameron is claiming he and some archeologists found the tomb of Jesus’s family. All the casket-like things called ossuaries are empty. I wonder what the archeologists were thinking when they found an ossuary with Jesus’s name on it. I can imagine the moment they removed the lid and looked in. If it were me, I’d wonder if I was going to see one of the following:
1. Nothing
2. Decomposed stuff
3. Jesus sitting up and saying, “What in Dad’s name took you so long?”
If you put an ordinary guy in an ossuary for 2,000 years, he’d clearly be dead. But if I were opening that ossuary I’d be wondering if maybe someone put Jesus in there after he died but before he arose. And maybe it’s hard to get out once you get in. I’d be worried that Jesus arose inside the stone box, and he’d be totally pissed that no one let him out until now.
I realize that this would not be the most rational worry in the world. But I like to base my worries on an expected value calculation. So for example, a 90% chance of getting a sliver would worry me about the same as a .000001% chance of a nuclear bomb going off in the backyard. In this ossuary example, I’d be looking at maybe a 2% chance of waking up an angry Jesus. I say that’s worth a worry.
If Jesus was in there, and sat up when I took the lid off, I’d first try to judge how angry he looked. If he had that money-changers-in-the-temple look, I’d go with a joke, like “Ha ha! Turn the other cheek!” Or maybe I’d try to explain to him that the extra suffering was extra good for humanity, and after all, that’s his job. Then I’d say, “Hey, I don’t like my job either, but you don’t see me complaining all the time.”
I know that some of you will say that if Jesus could move that big rock that was allegedly in front of his tomb in the traditional telling of his life, he’d have no trouble removing an ossuary lid. But he wasn’t supposed to be in an ossuary in the first place, so obviously if this ossuary is genuine, some of the details of the story were wrong. And if God let Jesus be crucified, it’s not a huge stretch of the imagination to think he’d let him stay in a stone box for 2,000 years. It makes sense to save your coolest miracle for when it’s needed most. And I think you’ll agree that this would be a good time for a messiah. And if you were God, you’d want James Cameron attached to this production. So it makes sense to me.
That’s why I’d be a crappy archeologist. I’d be afraid to open anything.
2007-03-01 01:58:46
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answered by bpgveg14 5
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I don't believe it, and I have some very good reasons. Let us turn this around, let's say that this was Peter's tomb, or John the Baptist or someone like that -- well NOTHING under the sun would convince these very same people that it belonged to Peter or John or whoever, even if the evidence was the same or better -- However they hopped on this pretty fast now didn't they! I wonder why.
No one would believe it at all if you put this out in the 80s when it was found, everyone would automatically see their two-faced, hypocritcal, scam. So they had to wait until decades later, after it has become fashionable to attack Christians, who for the most part are busy either minding their own business, or making this world a better place.
There are just so many people who really want to see another attack on Christianity, they do not care if it real or not, or if there is anything to it or not. Just look for yourself and see that this is true.
If real evidence ever did turn up, that would be just fine with me, why wouldn't it be? I know that such evidence would not turn up because no one would believe He was Christ if He was clearly buried somewhere. There would be no AD-BC, no New Testament, no disciples, no gospel, no law and order, no civilized modern societies, etc.
I do expect them to construct a forgery of this nature, and there have been many attempts. Hopefully there will always be a way of telling real from forgery, but our science is getting so good today, that one day soon, we will be able to make forgeries that our science will say that it is real.
Also, I expect a strong delusion from God to occur sometime soon, such a delusion might be along these lines, where a group gets together to attack God and His children. They might be allowed soon to construct something very deceiving.
At this time, however, this one is full of holes and difficulties, and nothing can be remotely proven.
2007-02-27 13:11:50
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answered by Shawn D 3
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I haven't read too much about this beyond a headline or two, but I am highly skeptical. Who remembers in 2002 when they found the sarcophagus of James, the brother of Jesus. Turned out to be a "pious" fraud.
This will probably be no different. Jesus and James were both very common Jewish names. Plus there is a lot of evidence that suggests the Historical Jesus never even existed.
Something that WILL turn out to be real, however, is the Pizza Pan with the Virgin Mary on it. LOL. I saw that on CNN yesterday.
2007-02-27 12:37:26
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answered by Anonymous
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Nope,not at all.
There is no other DNA sample of Jesus or His family to compare the remains with!Allthe DNA proves,is that the ones in the tomb were related!
Jesus' family were not even from Jerusalem.Jospeh's home he grew up in was in Bethlehem,and Jesus and his family lived in Galilee.Why would they be buried in Jerusalem,where they had no connection?
There is absolutely no evidence supporting the idea that Jesus was married or had a child,biblical or non-biblical.
The ossuaries that mention Mary,do not have any other descriptive features.They simply say 'Mary'.
The 'James son of Joseph,brother of Jesus' ossuary,which the makers of this film used to try and back up their claim,has been proven to be a forgery.
The main scholar who is the source for the story does not think it is Jesus' tomb.
Says Bar-Ilan University Professor Amos Kloner,"..those were the most common names found among Jews in the first centuries BCE and CE"
Prof. Amos Kloner, the Jerusalem District archeologist who officially oversaw the work at the tomb in 1980 and has published detailed findings on its contents, on Saturday night dismissed the claims. "It makes a great story for a TV film," he told The Jerusalem Post. "But it's impossible. It's nonsense." “"They just want to get money for it,"
Prof. Kloner said there was no way the tomb housed the Holy Family.
The senior Israeli archaeologist who thoroughly researched the tombs after their discovery, and at the time deciphered the inscriptions, cast serious doubt on it.
"It is just not possible that a family who came from Galilee, as the New Testament tells us of Joseph and Mary, would be buried over several generations in Jerusalem."
Kloner said the names found on the ossuaries were common, and the fact that such apparently resonant names had been found together was of no significance. He added that "Jesus son of Joseph" inscriptions had been found on several other ossuaries over the years."There is no likelihood that Jesus and his relatives had a family tomb," Kloner said. "They were a Galilee family with no ties in Jerusalem. The Talpiot tomb belonged to a middle-class family from the 1st century CE."
"Archeological evidence shows that chances of these being the actual
burials of the Holy Family are almost nil," said Motti Neiger, a spokesman for the
Antiquities Authority.
"Simcha has no credibility whatsoever," says Joe Zias, who was the curator for anthropology and archeology at the Rockefeller Museum in Jerusalem from 1972 to 1997 and personally numbered the Talpiot ossuaries. "He's pimping off the Bible … He got this guy Cameron, who made 'Titanic' or something like that—what does this guy know about archeology? I am an archeologist, but if I were to write a book about brain surgery, you would say, 'Who is this guy?' People want signs and wonders. Projects like these make a mockery of the archeological profession."
Stephen Pfann, a biblical scholar at the University of the Holy Land in Jerusalem who was interviewed in the documentary, said the film's hypothesis holds little weight. "How possible is it?" he said. "On a scale of one through 10 - 10 being completely possible , it's probably a one, maybe a one and a half."
The official report written by Prof. Kloner found nothing remarkable in the discovery. The cave, it said, was probably in use by three or four generations of Jews from the beginning of the Common Era. It was disturbed in antiquity, and vandalized.
2007-02-27 12:34:32
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answered by Serena 5
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They may have found Jesus' tomb, but it can't be the Jesus, who rose from the grave. Remember, there will be many deceptions in these last days, many who are not strong in the Lord will fall away. One of many apostacies. You must know the truth so you can stand against error.
2007-02-27 12:41:25
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answered by W J 3
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I know that it's a load of hooey because Jesus was from Nazareth, not Jerusalem (where they found these ossuaries). 2nd, they found these ossuaries (coffins) 27 years ago. The items are being publicized now because of something else that will connect to this. 3rd, "Jesus," "Mary," & "Joseph" were VERY common names, so finding those three together elsewhere really wasn't that hard. It would be like finding nowadays more than one John & Mary who had a kid named Joe.
And, of course, 4th, Jesus was buried in a tomb by himself. Whether or not you want to believe the very well documented fact of His resurrection, we also have solid documentation of where He was buried, and tho near Jerusalem, that's not where they found these ossuaries.
You'd really have to start with who moved the boulder out of the way.
2007-02-27 12:39:19
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answered by Anonymous
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No I really don't. They will never find the Tomb of Jesus because He isn't there. There are many people of old name Jesus and Mary.
2007-02-27 12:35:08
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answered by Anonymous
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It is a highly deceitful LIE that James Cameron will have to answer to God for one day (God won't like his answer,that's for sure)
This latest lie and other numerous lies ( Davinci Code, Jesus Papers,Gospel of Judas..just to name a few) was foretold in the Bible happening in the latter days. These verses hit the nail on the head concerning these latter day false prophets:
2 Peter2:1-3
1.But there were also false prophets in Israel.just as there will be false teachers among you.They will cleverly teach their destructive heresies about God and even turn against their Master who bought them. Theirs will be a swift and terrible end. 2.Many will follow their evil teaching and shameful immorality.And because of them.Christ and his true way will be slandered.
The kicker is verse 3 and HOW TRUE! :
3. In their greed they will make up clever lies to get hold of your money.But God condemned them long ago,and their destruction is on the way.
So you see, Satan is hard at work in these latter days for he KNOWS his time is short and he's furiously trying to trick and deceive as many as possible while he can . He's trying to lure as many to hell as he can. I pray for anyone who has been tricked by these false teachings.
2007-02-27 12:36:40
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answered by Jeff C 4
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Ok although coffee is my drink of choice, because this question was asked approximately 5,342 times today, I must switched to soda instead.
Look at http://discovery.com for more information on the upcoming documentary.
2007-02-27 12:35:37
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answered by Kallan 7
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yes because 10 percent of the people that time had the name either mary , joseph or jesus( or any drivation of them) even in america, someone has to have a name "jesus"
2007-02-27 12:35:17
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answered by Pisces 6
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