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Since the publication of "God the Cosmological Constant" things have been happening. James Cameron is among the many that will make it clear that there is a separation between God and Religion. God was before man and before the Earth came to be. Religion is an invention of man and therefore not of the true God.

2007-02-27 11:43:48 · 19 answers · asked by einstein 4 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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I am going to say maybe yes or maybe no! I am going to watch the discovery Chanel on march 3rd regarding this .

the tombs have very specific names like " Jesus son of Joesph" and "Judah son of Jesus" , and "maria Magdalena" the fact that they researched this since 1980 and it took them 27 years to come out with it is something to take into consideration!

of course it would change a lot of things!

2007-02-27 11:55:14 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

Filmmaker James Cameron is claiming he and some archeologists found the tomb of Jesus’s family. All the casket-like things called ossuaries are empty. I wonder what the archeologists were thinking when they found an ossuary with Jesus’s name on it. I can imagine the moment they removed the lid and looked in. If it were me, I’d wonder if I was going to see one of the following:

1. Nothing
2. Decomposed stuff
3. Jesus sitting up and saying, “What in Dad’s name took you so long?”

If you put an ordinary guy in an ossuary for 2,000 years, he’d clearly be dead. But if I were opening that ossuary I’d be wondering if maybe someone put Jesus in there after he died but before he arose. And maybe it’s hard to get out once you get in. I’d be worried that Jesus arose inside the stone box, and he’d be totally pissed that no one let him out until now.

I realize that this would not be the most rational worry in the world. But I like to base my worries on an expected value calculation. So for example, a 90% chance of getting a sliver would worry me about the same as a .000001% chance of a nuclear bomb going off in the backyard. In this ossuary example, I’d be looking at maybe a 2% chance of waking up an angry Jesus. I say that’s worth a worry.

If Jesus was in there, and sat up when I took the lid off, I’d first try to judge how angry he looked. If he had that money-changers-in-the-temple look, I’d go with a joke, like “Ha ha! Turn the other cheek!” Or maybe I’d try to explain to him that the extra suffering was extra good for humanity, and after all, that’s his job. Then I’d say, “Hey, I don’t like my job either, but you don’t see me complaining all the time.”

I know that some of you will say that if Jesus could move that big rock that was allegedly in front of his tomb in the traditional telling of his life, he’d have no trouble removing an ossuary lid. But he wasn’t supposed to be in an ossuary in the first place, so obviously if this ossuary is genuine, some of the details of the story were wrong. And if God let Jesus be crucified, it’s not a huge stretch of the imagination to think he’d let him stay in a stone box for 2,000 years. It makes sense to save your coolest miracle for when it’s needed most. And I think you’ll agree that this would be a good time for a messiah. And if you were God, you’d want James Cameron attached to this production. So it makes sense to me.

That’s why I’d be a crappy archeologist. I’d be afraid to open anything.

2007-03-01 01:37:29 · answer #2 · answered by bpgveg14 5 · 1 0

Not yet.

I would need a lot more to go on than what comes from a newspaper article or a TV programme.

The considered opinions, in a solid book, by a range of real experts, basically, since I'm not going to get my hands on the first hand evidence, nor am I trained to fully appreciate it.

Weighing arguments of divided experts, now that I'm fairly good at: spot the false argument, the unwarrented assumption, the special pleading...

On that I may be able to decide.
On that we'll have to. It's as close as nearly all of us will ever get. Same for evidcnce from astronomy, sub-atomic physics, genetic biology... Few of us are at the cutting edge of these things. But the decisions about what to believe, the meaning of life, we still have to make them.

2007-02-27 11:57:39 · answer #3 · answered by Pedestal 42 7 · 0 1

I don't doubt that they found the tomb of Jesus. But it doesn't prove anything. For one, they don't have Jesus's DNA on file, so how would they know if its actually him, and we don't have any idea what he looked like so a facial reconstruction would be pointless.
Two, if they indeed proved that it was the real Jesus Christ, then it doesn't prove or disprove God. It doesn't prove anything. It just proved that he existed.....and I have no doubt that he did. He was probably a stand up guy. I just don't believe in the bible or God, or the miracles that Jesus performed.

2007-02-27 11:51:47 · answer #4 · answered by Abby C 5 · 1 0

God is also an invention of man. Yes it probably is the tomb of jesus.

2007-02-27 11:47:46 · answer #5 · answered by dino 1 · 1 0

If Jesus was resurected like they say, then I dont think so.... but if he was just an extraordinary well meaning guy, then its quite possible? Just like the many other tombs we have discovered over the years. I still think Jesus could be considered a saviour just like mother theresa and the dhali lhama, and just because they find his remains doesn't make him a bad person?

2007-02-27 11:50:16 · answer #6 · answered by Jamie 3 · 1 0

No,they have not found Jesus' tomb.

The most popular names in that era for males were:
Simon
Joseph
Eleazar
Judah
John
Jesus
Hananiah
Jonathan
Matthew
Manaen/Menahem
The most popular female names for that era were:
Mary/Mariamne
Salome
Shelamzion
Martha

In that era,21% of Jewish women were named Mary!

There is no other DNA sample of Jesus or His family to compare the remains with!Allthe DNA proves,is that the ones in the tomb were related!

Jesus' family were not even from Jerusalem.Jospeh's home he grew up in was in Bethlehem,and Jesus and his family lived in Galilee.Why would they be buried in Jerusalem,where they had no connection?

There is absolutely no evidence supporting the idea that Jesus was married or had a child,biblical or non-biblical.

The ossuaries that mention Mary,do not have any other descriptive features.They simply say 'Mary'.

The 'James son of Joseph,brother of Jesus' ossuary,which the makers of this film used to try and back up their claim,has been proven to be a forgery.

The main scholar who is the source for the story does not think it is Jesus' tomb.

Says Bar-Ilan University Professor Amos Kloner,"..those were the most common names found among Jews in the first centuries BCE and CE"

Prof. Amos Kloner, the Jerusalem District archeologist who officially oversaw the work at the tomb in 1980 and has published detailed findings on its contents, on Saturday night dismissed the claims. "It makes a great story for a TV film," he told The Jerusalem Post. "But it's impossible. It's nonsense." “"They just want to get money for it,"
Prof. Kloner said there was no way the tomb housed the Holy Family.
The senior Israeli archaeologist who thoroughly researched the tombs after their discovery, and at the time deciphered the inscriptions, cast serious doubt on it.
"It is just not possible that a family who came from Galilee, as the New Testament tells us of Joseph and Mary, would be buried over several generations in Jerusalem."

Kloner said the names found on the ossuaries were common, and the fact that such apparently resonant names had been found together was of no significance. He added that "Jesus son of Joseph" inscriptions had been found on several other ossuaries over the years."There is no likelihood that Jesus and his relatives had a family tomb," Kloner said. "They were a Galilee family with no ties in Jerusalem. The Talpiot tomb belonged to a middle-class family from the 1st century CE."

"Archeological evidence shows that chances of these being the actual
burials of the Holy Family are almost nil," said Motti Neiger, a spokesman for the
Antiquities Authority.


"Simcha has no credibility whatsoever," says Joe Zias, who was the curator for anthropology and archeology at the Rockefeller Museum in Jerusalem from 1972 to 1997 and personally numbered the Talpiot ossuaries. "He's pimping off the Bible … He got this guy Cameron, who made 'Titanic' or something like that—what does this guy know about archeology? I am an archeologist, but if I were to write a book about brain surgery, you would say, 'Who is this guy?' People want signs and wonders. Projects like these make a mockery of the archeological profession."

Stephen Pfann, a biblical scholar at the University of the Holy Land in Jerusalem who was interviewed in the documentary, said the film's hypothesis holds little weight. "How possible is it?" he said. "On a scale of one through 10 - 10 being completely possible , it's probably a one, maybe a one and a half."


The official report written by Prof. Kloner found nothing remarkable in the discovery. The cave, it said, was probably in use by three or four generations of Jews from the beginning of the Common Era. It was disturbed in antiquity, and vandalized.

2007-02-27 11:48:56 · answer #7 · answered by Serena 5 · 0 2

First of all.-.-.-.-.-..How can anyone """prove""" that this is the tomb of Jesus?
I know that someone who stands to make a few million dollars from this hoax can believe anything that will make the money flow.
This is not the first time someone has claimed this.

2007-02-27 11:48:53 · answer #8 · answered by Desperado 5 · 1 0

for one thing, back then Jesus was a name so common that even the criminal Bar Abbas' first name was Jesus.
This would be like someone 2,000 years from now saying, "Oh my gosh! this tomb says 'here lies goerge'. It must be that president that lived 2,000 years ago!"

2007-02-27 11:52:16 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

Isn't that hilarious what people will do for money and to be noticed. Ridiculous...Of the so called many Gods and prophets it is only Jesus' tomb that is empty. Mmmm

2007-02-27 11:51:44 · answer #10 · answered by ? 6 · 0 1

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