does it say in the Hebrew bible that when your mesiah comes you are to worship him as if he were God's incarnation and not just the son of God?
I'm just wondering if the christians are doing the right thing, worshiping their mesiah, wondering if the Hebrew bible says anything on this subject?
2007-02-27 04:00:08 · 9 answers · asked by Bobby 3 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Right on J.P.!!!
Go J.P. Go J.P. it's your birthday get your groove on :)
Sorry i didnt get much sleep last night so i'm a little funky right now ^_^
2007-02-27 04:26:54 · update #1
No. The Tanakh teaches that he will be a man, not divine.
Shema Yisrael, ---- eloheinu, ---- echad.
"Hear, Oh Israel, The LORD is G-D, The LORD is One."
This idea of trinity is blasphemous.
[Please forgive an atheist answering -- I hold a deep interest and passion in Jewish culture and religion and thus find myself able to answer this question]
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Suzanne: Study your history a little better. The use of the compound singular is an after effect of the earliest Semitic culture being polytheistic, of which Yahweh was the Chief Deity (and as it happens, War Deity).
As the Semitic culture became monotheistic, this use of the compound was interpreted as the Royal We. If you were to offend the Queen of England with an off-colour joke at an official state function, she would not say, "You have offended me," rather, "You have offended Us." This 'us', this use of the compound singular, would indicate she was speaking not just as herself but as the whole of the United Kingdom.
Your semantic arguements might work on someone without a clue. They won't work on me.
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Suzanne: Oh really? Impressive credentials. Care to give the name to which they're attached?
And messianic Jews don't exist. Either you accept that Jesus was the Messiah, which makes you a Christian, or you reject him and (presuming you believe the god of Abraham) are a Jew.
2007-02-27 04:07:46 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 3⤋
I'm not as knowledgeable on the topic as J. P. is, however he is correct.
Form what I do know of the Jewish tradition is that the Messiah is to be a human being -not a God in the flesh or "a son of God"- who brings about certain changes and mets certain criteria; Jesus didn't do any of that, in fact much of the information given in the NT disqualifies him. He was what would be know as a false messiah. This is the reason Jews do not accept Jesus and in fact consider worship to be blasphemous; to them, there is only one God, they are strict monotheists. Worshiping the messiah would blasphemous.
Christianity is a perversion of Judasim, by that I mean the Christians appropriated the Jewish holy book and added too it. They did not (and still don't) understand the prophecy. If they did, they would realize (like I did) that Jesus was not the savior at all.
2007-02-27 13:18:19 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 1⤋
Not directly. However, it is STRONGLY implied. Passages such as Isaiah 53 tell us the Messiah will bear our sins and make permanent atonement for them. This is something only God can do. Then there is Isaiah 9, which describes the Messiah's government; within verse 6, He is called "Mighty God." There are other passages, as well. If you're curious, send me a message through YA.
P.S. -- J.P., I urge you to research the difference between "echad" (Strong's 0259) and "yahid" (Strong's 03173). God is "echad," which is routinely used in the OT as a "compound one." It is NEVER used as an "absolute one." On the other hand, "yahid" means an absolute one, and is NEVER used in the compound.
EDIT: J.P. your bullying might work on others, but it doesn't work on me. When you have 6 advanced degrees, as my Messianic Jewish teacher has (including Ancient Hebrew, Greek, OT Studies, etc.) AND when you're a world-renowned published author, as he is, then you can talk. Until then, your words are just so much untruthful babble.
2007-02-27 12:13:21 · answer #3 · answered by Suzanne: YPA 7 · 1⤊ 3⤋
No - the Old Testament says nothing about worshipping Jesus as God. It doesn't mention Jesus by name. All references to the Christian Jesus are vague and ambiguous, and they do not predict a Son of God.
2007-02-27 12:05:32 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 1⤋
Petty formulas just confuse things.
Jesus is second adam mandated by a need for a spiritual restoration to God by mankind. Original sin came into world by Adam and Eve. Chosen race provided chosen Messiah. Jesus is 'unblemish lamb sacrificed' (without sin). Gentiles are able to link up as adopted sons of God through the spiritual lineage of Abraham.
"Without the shedding of Blood, there is no forgiveness of sin"...Moses
True Christians are Jews, through Christ!
2007-02-27 12:10:59 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 3⤋
Hmm, well, JP is mostly right according to what I believe. Frankly, I don't see why Christians are answering with Jesus in here...
2007-02-28 03:15:16 · answer #6 · answered by XX 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
When he comes, he will be the messenger of God, nothing more. He will not be immortal or a God, just one who will help us be holy.
2007-02-27 12:04:48 · answer #7 · answered by notyou311 7 · 2⤊ 1⤋
The son of God IS also God. The trinity.
2007-02-27 12:06:00 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 3⤋
the Jews don't follow the Bible, they have the Torah.
2007-02-27 12:03:16 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 4⤋