James Cameron's idea that he found the bones of Jesus, Mary and Judas. Does this mean that atheists have run out of objections? It rather funny that this grapping at straws constitutes news to Americans.
2007-02-27 02:29:21 · 33 answers · asked by kmsbean 3 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Since when does James Cameron represent "the atheists"?
I'm what you might call an "atheist" and I'm the first to say that this supposed "find" is just the usual load of crap. But what's REALLY amusing is that you seem to think the burden of proof is on the skeptics. Nobody needs to dig up Jesus' bones to disprove antecedently absurd assertions, e.g. that Jesus rose from the grave.
2007-02-27 02:37:10 · answer #1 · answered by jonjon418 6 · 4⤊ 2⤋
No, I didn't believe it at first. But I went and read what they have and they have a pretty good case. It isn't a slam dunk, but it is solid. I will certainly watch the full show since they are holding many of the details.
I personally don't think it is a big deal one way or the other. But you guys do. And if you had a tenth the evidence to back up your faerie tale that this guy has you would have whoever found it up for the Nobel Prize. You hear it all the time how the Ark has been found. There is a wall of rock that may or may not be petrified wood and Christians are willing to jump to every conclusion. So I am willing to run with a 600:1 odds that they have the right tomb just because it pisses you off.
Edit: Betty has a great take on this. The main ones positing about it are Christians. Why do you suppose that is?
2007-02-27 02:39:17 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 3⤊ 2⤋
1) Not all skeptics agree with James Cameron. I, for one, don't know how anyone can prove that the bones are those of the Jesus christianity is based on.
2) If it IS proved to be true, then it's a major (possibly terminal) blow to christianity.
3) It's not a case of running out of objections. There are many logical objections to christianity put forward by skeptics which are either dodged or answered with a "god works in mysterious ways" type answer.
2007-02-27 02:34:19 · answer #3 · answered by Tom :: Athier than Thou 6 · 6⤊ 0⤋
Weather or not Jesus existed has very little to do with atheism. Atheist can still believe that Jesus was a man who caused a religious movement. Some Christians believe in evolution; granted, they believe that god caused this evolution, but nonetheless, the divide between science and religion is becoming weaker and weaker.
Really, out of everything that is in the news (Anna Nicole Smith, Britney Spears) the supposed finding of biblical artifacts is quite interesting. The bible may not be all true, but it is still an account of history.
What's "funny" is that very few people know about the genocide in Dafur, but just about everyone knows about the gold digging bimbo who O.D.
2007-02-27 02:42:08 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 0⤋
Ok well first, let's clarify. James Cameron does not claim HE found the bones.. it's a well-known fact that archaeologists are the ones who found the bones in 1980.
I'd like to see the documentary before making further comment on it, and although I'm not an atheist, if true, this would be the first actual historical evidence that such a man existed.
As for objections, will this mean that christians have to admit that he didn't rise from the dead and that he was married and had a child?
2007-02-27 02:36:16 · answer #5 · answered by Kallan 7 · 6⤊ 2⤋
Your setting up a straw man here. I don't see this an atheist plot to discredit Christianity. I have no idea what Mr. Cameron's personal beliefs are. I am sure there are a number of people associated with the show. I think you are prejudging this based on your personal prejudices. I have no emotional investment either way in whether these are or are not the bones of Jesus.
2007-02-27 02:35:46 · answer #6 · answered by Zen Pirate 6 · 3⤊ 2⤋
Skeptics aren't only skeptics about god, silly. We're skeptical about any nonsense that interested parties parade as fact without significant evidence. That puts Cameron's Jesus bones on a higher level of likelihood than the existence of god, but for my part, the evidence will need to be pretty darned good if I'm to accept that he's found the bones of Jesus & family.
2007-02-27 02:40:53 · answer #7 · answered by Bad Liberal 7 · 4⤊ 1⤋
This has been going on for hundreds of years. Someone, somewhere has found the bones of so and so, or a piece of the cross, or the holy hand granaide...but it is all a hoax. God would never leave any object or bone for us to find, because he knows that we will automatically start worshipping it, or slap a price tag on it and make money off of it. In this world so full of faithlessness, we need to have an over abundance of it to get over these 'claims'. Although I respect Cameron, I believe he is just selling another movie at the cost of others faith.
2007-02-27 02:35:49 · answer #8 · answered by Starjumper the R&S Cow 7 · 1⤊ 2⤋
Let us suppose for a moment that the bones found actually belonged to Jesus. It would then follow that Jesus was a human being, and had not been assumed into heaven. It does NOT follow that there was a resurrection, or forgiveness of sins, or any of the other claptrap that is found in the bible -- including, specifically, any reason to believe in the existence (or nonexistence) of any sort of god.
2007-02-27 02:40:19 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 3⤊ 1⤋
LOL. I never realized that believers were this desperate.
You think this is an atheist plot to disprove Christianity? That's amazing. Are you also one of the people who believes that scientists are hard at work trying to disprove the Biblical creation story and the existence of god?
News flash: the universe doesn't revolve around your beliefs.
2007-02-27 02:43:25 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋