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then doesn't it invalidate the entire New Testmaent? Wouldn't that mean that the New Testament would be considered just another worthless religious text, comparable to the Book of Mormom and Dianetics?

2007-02-26 16:50:59 · 18 answers · asked by taa 4 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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Like all things, a fix will come out.. they will call the "rising" figurative..

2007-02-26 19:26:29 · answer #1 · answered by XX 6 · 0 2

Filmmaker James Cameron is claiming he and some archeologists found the tomb of Jesus’s family. All the casket-like things called ossuaries are empty. I wonder what the archeologists were thinking when they found an ossuary with Jesus’s name on it. I can imagine the moment they removed the lid and looked in. If it were me, I’d wonder if I was going to see one of the following:

1. Nothing
2. Decomposed stuff
3. Jesus sitting up and saying, “What in Dad’s name took you so long?”

If you put an ordinary guy in an ossuary for 2,000 years, he’d clearly be dead. But if I were opening that ossuary I’d be wondering if maybe someone put Jesus in there after he died but before he arose. And maybe it’s hard to get out once you get in. I’d be worried that Jesus arose inside the stone box, and he’d be totally pissed that no one let him out until now.

I realize that this would not be the most rational worry in the world. But I like to base my worries on an expected value calculation. So for example, a 90% chance of getting a sliver would worry me about the same as a .000001% chance of a nuclear bomb going off in the backyard. In this ossuary example, I’d be looking at maybe a 2% chance of waking up an angry Jesus. I say that’s worth a worry.

If Jesus was in there, and sat up when I took the lid off, I’d first try to judge how angry he looked. If he had that money-changers-in-the-temple look, I’d go with a joke, like “Ha ha! Turn the other cheek!” Or maybe I’d try to explain to him that the extra suffering was extra good for humanity, and after all, that’s his job. Then I’d say, “Hey, I don’t like my job either, but you don’t see me complaining all the time.”

I know that some of you will say that if Jesus could move that big rock that was allegedly in front of his tomb in the traditional telling of his life, he’d have no trouble removing an ossuary lid. But he wasn’t supposed to be in an ossuary in the first place, so obviously if this ossuary is genuine, some of the details of the story were wrong. And if God let Jesus be crucified, it’s not a huge stretch of the imagination to think he’d let him stay in a stone box for 2,000 years. It makes sense to save your coolest miracle for when it’s needed most. And I think you’ll agree that this would be a good time for a messiah. And if you were God, you’d want James Cameron attached to this production. So it makes sense to me.

That’s why I’d be a crappy archeologist. I’d be afraid to open anything.

2007-03-01 09:34:58 · answer #2 · answered by bpgveg14 5 · 1 0

I do not understand why people take the bible and religious text to be true in fact. These texts are stories for people to understand their past and to help in their daily lives in a moral sense. Is the majority of the world that naive? To understand what i am saying you first must step back from personal beliefs and try and evaluate how humans work mentally today and in the past. To take those text to be literally historical facts is impossible for a person with reasoning skills to truly believe to be true fact of the past. So many things have been changed, added or deleted that who know what is 100% even real events. Jesus' bones are probably somewhere but actually proving that certain bones belong to him is impossible. Everyone needs to study history and psychology.

2007-02-27 01:06:25 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0 2

Amos Kloner found the tombs in 1980 but took no interest in the names of Jesus and Mary, as he still doesn't, because they were so common. But James Cameron is a filmmaker and knows how to make a hit. It is an old recipe for hype and sales.

2007-02-27 01:10:07 · answer #4 · answered by Aspurtaime Dog Sneeze 6 · 1 2

You can compare the New Testament and the Book of Mormon but Dianetics don't fit. It in not a religious book.

2007-02-27 01:06:23 · answer #5 · answered by T-Rex 5 · 0 3

The New Testament is ALREADY considered just another worthless religious text.

2007-02-27 00:58:42 · answer #6 · answered by gelfling 7 · 0 3

Jesus saved us by his message from God, which is "Harmony is harmony; disharmony is the only sin against God".

I believe in the exact quotes of Jesus' in the Bible. I am suspicious of all other verses. Nothing about Jesus' tomb or anything else would shake the real message of God.

2007-02-27 01:00:18 · answer #7 · answered by MrsOcultyThomas 6 · 1 2

I think this is going to show how people really believe in Jesus and love and friends and themselves.What would you do if someone came to you and tried to convince you against your best friend?Would you believe them and write off your friend?
This is going to be interesting to see what this world and I mean all denominations are going to do.I intend to stand with my best friend no matter what.Jesus is my best friend and is the only one at times that stood with me,there is no way I am going to tuck tail and run.

2007-02-27 01:02:04 · answer #8 · answered by jackiedj8952 5 · 1 2

its a movie and its publicity to get people to get to the theater this so called tomb of the family of Jesus was found 25 years ago

2007-02-27 00:56:36 · answer #9 · answered by Are we using our brains today 3 · 1 2

But the thing is,the film is not true.There are many critics of the theory who aren't even Christians.

The most popular names in that era for males were:
Simon
Joseph
Eleazar
Judah
John
Jesus
Hananiah
Jonathan
Matthew
Manaen/Menahem
The most popular female names for that era were:
Mary/Mariamne
Salome
Shelamzion
Martha

In that era,21% of Jewish women were named Mary!

There is no other DNA sample of Jesus or His family to compare the remains with!Allthe DNA proves,is that the ones in the tomb were related!

Jesus' family were not even from Jerusalem.Jospeh's home he grew up in was in Bethlehem,and Jesus and his family lived in Galilee.Why would they be buried in Jerusalem,where they had no connection?

There is absolutely no evidence supporting the idea that Jesus was married or had a child,biblical or non-biblical.

The ossuaries that mention Mary,do not have any other descriptive features.They simply say 'Mary'.

The 'James son of Joseph,brother of Jesus' ossuary,which the makers of this film used to try and back up their claim,has been proven to be a forgery.

The main scholar who is the source for the story does not think it is Jesus' tomb.

Says Bar-Ilan University Professor Amos Kloner,"..those were the most common names found among Jews in the first centuries BCE and CE"

Prof. Amos Kloner, the Jerusalem District archeologist who officially oversaw the work at the tomb in 1980 and has published detailed findings on its contents, on Saturday night dismissed the claims. "It makes a great story for a TV film," he told The Jerusalem Post. "But it's impossible. It's nonsense." “"They just want to get money for it,"
Prof. Kloner said there was no way the tomb housed the Holy Family.
The senior Israeli archaeologist who thoroughly researched the tombs after their discovery, and at the time deciphered the inscriptions, cast serious doubt on it.
"It is just not possible that a family who came from Galilee, as the New Testament tells us of Joseph and Mary, would be buried over several generations in Jerusalem."

Kloner said the names found on the ossuaries were common, and the fact that such apparently resonant names had been found together was of no significance. He added that "Jesus son of Joseph" inscriptions had been found on several other ossuaries over the years."There is no likelihood that Jesus and his relatives had a family tomb," Kloner said. "They were a Galilee family with no ties in Jerusalem. The Talpiot tomb belonged to a middle-class family from the 1st century CE."

"Archeological evidence shows that chances of these being the actual
burials of the Holy Family are almost nil," said Motti Neiger, a spokesman for the
Antiquities Authority.


"Simcha has no credibility whatsoever," says Joe Zias, who was the curator for anthropology and archeology at the Rockefeller Museum in Jerusalem from 1972 to 1997 and personally numbered the Talpiot ossuaries. "He's pimping off the Bible … He got this guy Cameron, who made 'Titanic' or something like that—what does this guy know about archeology? I am an archeologist, but if I were to write a book about brain surgery, you would say, 'Who is this guy?' People want signs and wonders. Projects like these make a mockery of the archeological profession."

Stephen Pfann, a biblical scholar at the University of the Holy Land in Jerusalem who was interviewed in the documentary, said the film's hypothesis holds little weight. "How possible is it?" he said. "On a scale of one through 10 - 10 being completely possible , it's probably a one, maybe a one and a half."


The official report written by Prof. Kloner found nothing remarkable in the discovery. The cave, it said, was probably in use by three or four generations of Jews from the beginning of the Common Era. It was disturbed in antiquity, and vandalized.

In short,the archaeological world (and that of serious scholars) is laughing at this movie.They do not take it seriously,or believe in it,in the slightest.

2007-02-27 00:55:48 · answer #10 · answered by Serena 5 · 1 7

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