Maybe I have not been very clear in my question, so here I'll try again:
Part of our discussion was: can it be a matter of translation if gays go to heaven?
I Cor 6:9 Do you not know that the sinful will not inherit the kingdom of God?
Do not be deceived!
Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor boy molesters nor thieves nor the greedy…
Therefore the Bible seems to be targeted to the one’s that hurt other’s, meaning it is mentioned to protect boys from predators, not oppose grown men that are in love with another man
Any ideas, or even better: does anybody know a good translation?
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2007-02-26 13:48:37 · 23 answers · asked by carla 3 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
to all who are so upset with me now: I am a married woman - but I am German and in my language the Corinthian Letter clearly decribes those who abuse others, NOT homosexuals
2007-02-26 14:56:16 · update #1
As a Christian, I focus my beliefs more on the words of Jesus Christ than I do on the teachings of the Old Testament or those of Paul. Jesus taught us the way to Heaven, and made it clear that we could all be included. He never took the time to list who was going to make it and who wasn't. Those are the words of one man's interpretation of the message of Christ, not the words of Christ himself.
By the way, as Christians, we should all be more worried about our own personal relationship with God then we should be about the specifics of who gets into Heaven. Working on our own relationship will give us the answers that we need. so that we are able to share those answers with other people.
2007-02-26 13:58:38 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 3⤊ 3⤋
i hate it when people purposely misinterpret the Bible. Here's an excerpt telling the truth about that verse. you should pay attention to the part about how it's not just about "male prostitutes".
Another New Testament passage dealing with homosexuality is 1 Corinthians 6:9-10. " Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God." Pro- homosexual commentators make use of the "abuse" argument and point out that Paul is only singling out homosexual offenders. In other words, they argue that the Apostle Paul is condemning homosexual abuse rather than responsible homosexual behavior. In essence, these commentators are suggesting that Paul is calling for temperance rather than abstinence. While this could be a reasonable interpretation for drinking wine (don't be a drunkard), it hardly applies to other sins listed in 1 Corinthians 6 or 1 Timothy 1. Is Paul calling for responsible adultery or responsible prostitution? Is there such a thing as moral theft and swindling? Obviously the argument breaks down. Scripture never condones sex outside of marriage (premarital sex, extramarital sex, homosexual sex). God created man and woman for the institution of marriage (Gen. 2:24). Homosexuality is a violation of the creation order, and God clearly condemns it as unnatural and specifically against His ordained order. As we have seen in the discussion thus far, there are passages in both the Old Testament and the New Testament which condemn homosexuality.
2007-02-26 21:56:11 · answer #2 · answered by stitchfan85 6 · 2⤊ 1⤋
1 Cor 6:9-10 "Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God."
This is from the King James Version. If GOD created the woman for the man in Genesis, then I truly believe that the man and woman are to be together, not two men or two women. We are also directed in Genesis that in Sodom the men were immoral in their lust for other men. This makes it sexually immoral. Should this not tell us that it is certainly WRONG and therefore, Sinful? I think so! Since this is sin and the "gays" are sinful, then according to 1 Corinthians 6:9-10, they will not be in heaven. I hope that this is clear enough. If you are "gay" then you certainly need to change your ways and get into the "right church" one that practices what is actually taught ion the New Testament. Please read, study, and follow GOD's WORD! Have a great week.
Eds
2007-02-26 22:00:43 · answer #3 · answered by Eds 7 · 2⤊ 1⤋
You didn't tell what translation you got that from. I'll give you three.
KJV
Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
NAS
Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals
NIV
Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders
Each makes it clear that homosexuality is a sin that will cause the offender to be barred from the Kingdom of God... Jim
2007-02-26 22:11:09 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 1⤋
Do you not understand that The Bible teaches that sexual immorality will not enter into Heaven. Now Jesus made a way for that in which a person of that caliber can enter. By repenting (turning away) from all sin and living a life thats pleasing to Him in accordance with His Word, The Holy Bible. Are you really so concerned or just trying to stir more argument?....because this is not so difficult to understand. PEACE!!!
2007-02-26 21:59:37 · answer #5 · answered by David H 4 · 1⤊ 1⤋
obviously a greater sin is to hurt someone else but have you not also read Romans ch1 vs 21-27 homosexuality is not natural it is demonic as all sin is
Yes we must protect boys from predetors
Yes grown men have the right to do what they want umongst themselves we have freedom of choice
its still not God's will
2007-02-26 21:58:31 · answer #6 · answered by Nate_777 2 · 1⤊ 1⤋
I agree too, love cannot be sinful, sexual immorality cannot apply to a loving gay couple... I know a gay couple who are more certainly in heaven than anyone else on earth.
of course, the bible was written by a bunch of power mad hypocrites, I believe that many male prostitutes are as safe as many female ones - god knows your heart, and many christians will be turned away because of their judgemental hypocrisy, hypocrites are the only ones actually condemned by christ...
2007-02-26 21:52:31 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 2⤋
Flat out no reason to concern yourself Homosexuals are not going to Heaven. No way Christians are going to allow them in. Christians will boycott the place first. It will be either a Christian or Homosexual Heaven and Christians have you outnumbered.Christians wont even allow you your own room way back in the corner away from everyone else. You had better just start getting use to a hot climate. Start like taking your vacations to Florida in the middle of the summer then move out to New Mexico and Arizona by the time you go to Hell you will be a nice bronze and already accustomed to the climate change.
2007-02-26 22:19:51 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 4⤋
the love of grown men are referred to as sexually immoral and so designated in other places of the bible . there is no escaping the bible's point of view in regards to homosexuality,negative.
Personally I don't believe in the bible anyway as it is antiquated beyond acceptability and tainted throughout with fantasies.
2007-02-26 22:13:35 · answer #9 · answered by dogpatch USA 7 · 1⤊ 1⤋
Even if we could erase homosexuality from the scriptures, there is still enough rebellion in the heart of man against God to condemn us.
2007-02-26 23:10:34 · answer #10 · answered by tj 3 · 1⤊ 1⤋