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Hasn't the science of quantum probability proven that life randomly forming, then evolving into every creature that we know today is an insane theory to believe in? Basically, quantum probability has shown that it is more likely that a person can win the powerball lotto everyday for 450 years than for life to spontaneously form and evolve into all the different creatures we see today. So, knowing this, why do people still believe in this junk? Why do evolutionists cower in fear when their beliefs are confronted with reason, facts, and science? Why do they have to resort to threats and insults when they can no longer find intelligent points to support their positions? Why are they so closed-minded to alternative views?

2007-02-26 13:03:24 · 30 answers · asked by Matt 4 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

seth, i'm sure we all learned basic probability back in school but have forgotten. Basically, it is how probable/likely something is to happen. In quantum probability they look at what things HAVE to occur in order for life to form, such as amino acids for life to function. Scientists take the simplest form of life available, which has 25 amino acids i believe. then the calculate the age of the earth, size of the earth, and size of the amino acids. It gets complicated from there, but basically it is trying to figure out how likely it would be for a bunch of factors to come together and life to form. Similar to figuring out the odds of anything occuring, the odds of getting hit by a car, or dying in a plane crash, etc. The powerpall thing was just an analogy. we always hear someone say your odds of winning are X in 100 million or something. if you are good at math, you can do this, however it is complicated.

2007-02-26 13:20:11 · update #1

30 answers

They have an exceptional amount of faith

2007-02-26 13:06:49 · answer #1 · answered by Makemeaspark 7 · 1 6

This has nothing to do with Quantum Theory.

As Richard Dawkins has so elegantly pointed out, humans can only understand probability within the span of a single lifetime. So, the probability of winning the lotto jackpot if you bought a ticket every day for 80 years (assuming you started at birth) is negligible. On the contrary, buying a ticket every day for 4.5 billion years gives you a high probability of winning not just once, but thousands of times. AND, this is for a single planet. The anthropic principle states that the conditions for our existence had to occur because we are here. On how many other millions or billions of "habitable" planets in the universe were the dice thrown unsuccessfully?

Besides, abiogensis has been a known viable concept for 50 years now. Are you familiar with the Miller-Urey experiment (see link below).

2007-02-26 13:16:46 · answer #2 · answered by Brendan G 4 · 2 0

Granted I am not completely up to date on quantum probability, however I am guessing that you do not quite fully grasp the concept either. I will attempt to answer at least part of this question.

Life spontaneously forming is not as random an act as you claim. Scientists have been able to reproduce the conditions and come to fairly close results in the creation of life on earth way back when.

It is scientifically proven that should you take the basic chemicals that were around during the formation of the earth and zap them with an electrical charge (like lightning) you would get a pool of "primordial ooze". With the frequency of lightning strikes in a new forming planet, and the likely abundancy of these pools, the odds look pretty well in favor of something special happening (EG formation of basic life).

2007-02-26 13:12:36 · answer #3 · answered by DimensionalStryder 4 · 2 0

as you admit that there is a possibility that evolution could occur and with enough opportunities it will
on the other hand there is no logical basis for thinking there is Divine being
you apparently have no idea what quantum probability is, is can not nor will it ever prove anything. It may provide an explanation that could be tested and then prove that this theory is valid
secondly quantum probability explains probability as used in quantum physics, which the chances of spontaneous life is not

however you assume that evolution is anti Christan it isn't ,evolution is part of most Christian belief structures it is only in red neck America , a minor place in Christianity that ignorance breeds so pitifully
rational people are not closed minded to alternative rational views, but you dont have a rational view you will go back to the jewish fables

2007-02-26 13:08:00 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 6 0

The probability may be low but not zero. We only know that life formed on only one planet from an exceptionally large number and the low probability may mean that life does not exist elsewhere. Other factors to consider are that life could have formed in different ways with other amino acids or possibly in some form based on non-amino acid structures. This raises the probability of some form of life starting.
Establishing something as being low probability does not prove that it did not happen.
It is unfortunate that it is not possible to calculate the probability of the existence of God since their is no observable or measurable data. In the absence of any data, in simple mathematical terms the probability has to be zero so that even a low probability solution is more rational than a zero probability one.
I am sorry because I would like to see some proof of God's existence and I know that it is impossible to prove that God does not exist but your argument does not constitute proof.

2007-02-26 16:08:14 · answer #5 · answered by John B 4 · 0 0

And the alternate view is...God is Magic? Come on, be reasonable. What are the odds that some magical being exists that created the entire universe (all 70 trillion stars) with a single spoken work? Probably something like winning the powerball lotto everyday for 100,000,000 years.

I'm going with the more plausible solution.

2007-02-26 13:09:14 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 6 0

Things that evolve don't have to work perfectly the first time....they only have to work better than what's already out there. This slight improvement will then be slightly improved upon by cumulative natural selections.

Also, we know that life did spontaneously form once...Given 110s of billions of years and even more solar sytems, even the improbable becomes likely.

2007-02-26 13:22:29 · answer #7 · answered by ivorytowerboy 5 · 1 0

This might be due to the reason that in every minute or every second there is/are baby(ies) born in our world. But if you're pointing to an individual who spontaneously create his life,---this could not be true thus, life is already created and spontaneous is not the right word to describe it but rather forming or developing. A person forms /develops his life throuh his experinces.

2007-02-26 13:19:59 · answer #8 · answered by ring_19882000 1 · 0 0

why do you preserve asking the comparable question returned and returned? it is not any thank you to evolve to the subsequent point in YA! to respond to returned: This has no longer something to do with Quantum concept. As Richard Dawkins has so elegantly stated, human beings can in basic terms understand risk in the span of a single lifetime. So, the risk of triumphing the lotto jackpot if to procure a cost ticket daily for eighty years (assuming you began at beginning) is negligible. on the different, paying for a cost ticket daily for 4.5 billion years delivers a severe risk of triumphing no longer in basic terms as quickly as, yet hundreds of cases. AND, that's for a single planet. The anthropic concept states that the situations for our existence had to take place because of the fact we are right here. On what share different tens of millions or billions of "liveable" planets in the universe have been the cube thrown unsuccessfully? besides, abiogensis has been a widespread available concept for fifty years now. Are you acquainted with the Miller-Urey test (see link under).

2016-10-02 01:25:08 · answer #9 · answered by ? 4 · 0 0

Ah.. now we have a brand new branch of quantum probability theory - which seems dedicated to disproving evolution via abiogenenetical conflation. Wow, the things that go on when you turn your head.
Please inform us of these luminaries and their texts. We the ignorant seem to have let a whole revolution in science pass us by. (But please, no Behe - he's toast.)

And by the way, please re-state this question in the science section. A couple of people there are anxiously awaiting further clarification of these ":quantum probability" parameters.

2007-02-26 13:27:50 · answer #10 · answered by JAT 6 · 3 0

Most atheists that I know don't 'believe' in spontaneous creation. They don't BELIEVE anything--that's why they are atheists!

Most religionists have a problem with the fact that we as humans just don't know how we and the universe got here, or why, or if and when it will all go away.

Maybe the purpose of our lives is to become big enough to handle that . . .

2007-02-26 13:07:46 · answer #11 · answered by nora22000 7 · 5 0

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