It says in the bible that God created Lucifer to be perfect. It also says that the flaws in Lucifer "found" their way into him. So this means that God's creations are fallable correct? And yes I do understand it was do to The Morning Star's free will that he became flawed.
Now, the bible is purportedly the "Word of God" passed through men (who have free will) over thousands of years. Can you give me one good reason that the bible could not possibly be flawed/incorrect? Can you tell me why it is absolutely impossible for it to be corrupted?
Oh, and "Because it is the word of God" will not fly, because it has been made clear that the works of God can become flawed in the story of the fall of the angel Lucifer from God's graces.
2007-02-26
12:12:07
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For those that asked, here is where I got my original assertion that God created Satan perfect.
Ezekiel 28:11 Moreove the word of the Lord came to me: (12) Mortal, raise a lamentation over the king of Tyre, and say to him, Thus says the Lord God:
You were the signet of perfection, full of wisdom and perfect in beauty.
13-14 describes more about him
and 15 You were blameless in your ways from the day that you were created, until iniquity was found in you.
As you see, my assertions about Satan were based on scripture in the bible.
2007-02-26
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update #1
Anytime you funnel stuff through people, it's gonna be screwed up! As far as I'm concerned, I don't profess to know what God really said (I think that Jesus taught some good lessons, but that the religious right has distorted/changed the messages to follow their personal agendas to control everyone/force everyone to their way of 'thinking'). Whatever supreme intelligence created this universe, I'm sure that they aren't as simplified as the bible beaters would have you believe. I think that it's way beyond our understanding.
The best thing to do is just to love and be loved, and if you want to change anything, change yourself.
2007-02-26 12:17:11
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answered by Anonymous
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I rarley go by what the bible says but from what you stated in the question above here is what i came up with.
If God created Lucifer and flaws found Lucifer that does not mean that God is flawed. He would only be Flawed if Lucifer was flawed when God created him.
If the Bible is to be passed down through 'the word of men' who have free will it most definatly can be flawed. Mostly because it can be changed to how 'men' perseve it. The Bible however was not flawed when God wrote it. "men' who have flaws are the ones that have flawed it. It is not Gods fault.
God should not be perseved as Flawed because Lucifer was a fallen angel. That is an act of free will in an angels doing.
2007-02-26 12:20:08
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answered by Jacki 2
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There is not a single person on this earth that can answer your question. Not because someone couldn't give you an answer;anyone can do that. God's word isn't flawed. You already answered your own question, and now you are trying to find fault in the Bible by asking others to find fault that no one can answer. If Lucifer was created perfect as you say, then why can't the Bible be perfect? You either believe in God or you don't. Don't to ask loaded questions because then you work for Satan.
2007-02-26 12:51:54
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answered by cgi 5
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The Bible is the Book, if you will, of the Church.
Understand that before there was a Bible, there was the Church. And the Bible grew and was formed in the Church, over time. So, yes, it was compiled by men. To truly understand the Bible, one has to be a member of an right-believing community (a.k.a. the Church). It cannot be understood fully without the interpretation of the Church throught the ages.
So, no, it was not just, PLOP!, here is the Bible, falling out of the sky. It was written by men, through the inspiration of the Holy Spirit.
As a matter of fact, the Gospel according to St. Luke tells of one thief that Christ said would go to Paradise and the other would not. Whereas, one of the other Gospels (either Matthew or Mark) tells of both thieves being condemned. Hmm, sounds like a contradiction. BUT, the faith community (a.k.a. the Church) believe the account in Luke.
A contradiction? Apparently. Does it matter? No. Why? Because the Church knows what it believes, AND it was first.
So, no problem.
2007-02-26 12:20:12
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answered by on_the_bb 2
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Since the Bible was both written and interpreted by man, I think there is a possibility that there may be some inaccuracies. That is not to say the bible is corrupt. Some of the books of the Bible were written long after they took place. Therefore, it would only seem reasonable that some of the quotes were not "word for word". However, I do think that the main "jest" of the stories are in tact. The Bible is a guideline for Christians to follow. If the fact that Jesus Christ was the Messiah, and God exist, is something you get from reading the Bible and you truly believe this, whether the stories are totally accurate or not is irrelevant.
2007-02-26 12:25:05
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answered by Anonymous
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It does not say in the Bible that God created Lucifer to be perfect. It also does not say that the flaws in Lucifer found their way into him. Since those two statements of yours are wrong so is a statement that God's creations are fallible. There's also nothing in the Bible about angels having a free will. The reason the Bible is not flawed is because it has God's divine protection on it.
2007-02-26 12:21:51
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answered by oldguy63 7
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To interpret the Bible literally and believe it's every word was what lead us into the Crusades, was what fuelled the Inquisition and many other mistakes for which the Pope already apologized.
There are no reasons to believe the Bible is perfect, the Bible's greatness comes not from its infallibility but from the awesome moral compass it is
Incidentally, if you want to look at what happens when you take this kind of religious texts literally turn on the TV and watch what the radical interpretation of the Koran has done to the Middle-East
2007-02-26 12:20:39
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answered by El Oso Yonki 1
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God did not write the Bible, man did. The Bible is man's interpretation of the word of God. Nobody can say that it's 100% correct but nobody can say that it's flawed or corrupted either. The Bible was written by many men and the stories are consistent therefore we can believe it is mostly truth.
2007-02-26 12:19:37
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answered by pamomof4 5
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The Bible may be very well be flawed or incorrect darling. But who are you to question GOD! Oh and for that little paragraph there ummm incorrect. God NEVER created Lucifer to be perfect... ONLY God, Jesus and the holy spirit is perfect. God's creations are not "flawed" as you say, God gave everyone the choice to choose Satan or god..... Heaven or Hell. Besides God knows a lot more than me or you. Men (are fallible) wrote The Bible but God is NOT... he is PERFECT in every way! I really do doubt that the whole Bible is accurate but I believe that it has a lot of word that we need to learn to be successful in Gods plan for us. Like I said before who are you to question GOD or his existence???
2007-02-26 12:21:25
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answered by Yahoo 4
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I could tell you, but why should I? You believe God's Word and insist then on not believing God's Word. If the Bible, the Word of God was absolutely, flawlessly perfect, and it could be proven beyond all doubt, would you believe it? This is one of those things where you have to have enough belief to go and check it out for yourself. I suggest going to find God where He said He can be found and asking Him yourself.
If you assume that the Word of God it is true, then you will find the proof you need. It is sort of like buying a plane ticket to some far off place that you never been to, you are never going to get there without the ticket.
2007-02-26 12:18:02
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answered by Shawn D 3
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There is no reason the bible could not be wrong in meaning. The only prof we have is that it has not changed. Man translated Gods word to writing. There is no reason why the writing would not be influenced by the man and his experience in life.
Also the old testament is a collection of history. The new is mostly about more history, and how the followers of Jesus see his teachings, and views on topics. The bible is simply a tool used to guide us. It is the best example of what God wants spelled out for us, but there is no reason to take what anyone else says over what you feel God is telling you in your heart.
2007-02-26 12:19:30
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answered by anamaradancer 3
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