Why is "God" the only thing that can come from nothing?

Question

According to Christians, he either comes from nothing, or has existed forever and doesn't need to come from anything. He exists outside of time, as well, but can affect what's inside time. What reasoning leads to the conclusion that God of the Bible is the only thing that could have these non-origins?

As an alternative, why couldn't "God with antlers" have come from nothing? Or maybe "God who doesn't hate homosexuality"?

Answer 1

Why is "God" the only thing that can come from nothing?

You answered your own question. He doesn't "come from" anything. For God to come from something He could not be God. But to carry it one step further, God creates from "nothing."

What reasoning leads to the conclusion that God of the Bible is the only thing that could have these non-origins?

A omnipotent, omnipresent "creator of the universe" being that has always "been" or simply "is" that "is" outside of time and space and transcends the basic concept of "existence" within a temporal reality. Seems reasonable to conclude there weren't twins.

However, as we start to understand things like String Theory, we might discover that things like multiple universes exists. Seems almost miraculous huh? Awesome even.

Answer 2

This is all based on mans reasoning. The BIBLE simply states in the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.

We do not know the true nature of Gods existence. Only what is reveled to us in His word.

He is the God "I AM". He was before our time began and will be the end. Alpha and Omega.

Other than our beginning and the end results we know no more, everything else is speculation on mans part.

Everything "we know" was created by God. There may be another plain that we will never know until we reach it.

All I know is that the Bible is True, anything beyond that is speculation and flawed.

Answer 3

God didn't come from nothing, He is Everything. He can affect time, because He created it. God is sovreign, and can do whatever he'd like to.

The God of the Holy Bible is the one true God, because He gave us His Word (the Bible) which is filled with prophecies that are continuing to be fulfilled to this day. What other "holy" book can claim that?

Answer 4

Because the Second law of Thermodynamics suggests that the material universe must have had an origin. For those who don't know, the 2nd law states that everything inside a closed system moves from order to disorder, not the other way around (If a tornado blows through a junk yard, it does not manufacture a fully functional 747 airliner from the random junk).

If the universe, itself a closed system, is winding down from order to greater disorder, then someone must have wound it up at some point. Someone must have provided the original order, so the universe itself cannot be eternal.

As for the rest of your question, ask God yourself if he has antlers, or if he likes gay people, when you see him.

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I got a response from someone who said that the 2nd Law has nothing to do with disorder (entrophy) and that the universe is not a closed system. Here are some links for those how don't understand basic physics, then:

[BTW, if the universe is NOT a closed system, then what is outside if, giving it energy? God, perhaps?]

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...So what's the question? Only this: Why do things happen the way they do, and not in reverse?
For example:

When you drop an egg on the floor, it breaks. But dropping a broken egg on the floor doesn't cause it to become whole.
A new deck of cards comes with all the cards in order. Shuffling them mixes up the cards. Now take a deck of cards that's mixed up and shuffle them. The cards do not come back to their original order.

Pick up a can of air freshener and push down the button. The air freshener spews out of the can and spreads out around the room. Now try gathering up the air freshener and putting it back in the can. Doesn't work, does it?

You put ice in a drink to make it colder. You trust that when you do this, your drink will get colder while the ice gets warmer, and eventually melts. Pouring water into a cold drink won't cause the reverse of this process to occur. That is, when you pour water into a cold drink, the water doesn't freeze while the rest of the drink gets warmer.

The shuffling of a deck of cards, the spray of an aerosol can, the flow of heat from warm things to cold things, the breaking of an egg; these are all examples of what physicists call " irreversible processes" . They occur very naturally, but all the king's horses and all the king's men can't undo them.
Practically everything that goes on in the universe is irreversible. (In the technical, " physics" sense, that is. Don't read anything politcal, philosophical, or sociological into that last statement!) But why are all these processes irreversible?

The answer is entropy! ...

...So what does this mean? Really, it's just a summary of all that I've said so far. The entropy of a macrostate depends on the number of microstates that make it up. And since all microstates are equally, a macrostate with more microstates (higher entropy) is more likely than one with fewer microstates (lower entropy). The second law says that if a closed system is in a state with low entropy, it will naturally find a state with high entropy, if there's one available. (By "available", we mean an aerosol air freshener will spread out over the entire room only if you push down the button. If you don't push down the button, it can't get out of the can.)

I should point out what we mean by a closed system. A closed system is a system to and from which no energy (especially heat) and matter (atoms and molecules, etc.) can flow. It's a system which has no interaction with anything outside it. This is sort of an idealization, since nothing in the universe can be completely shielded from its surroundings. On the other hand, the universe itself is probably a closed system (cosmologists do debate this, though) and so with that in mind, you can probably restate the second law, saying that the entropy of the universe never decreases, and increases whenever possible.

So now that we've condensed the whole discussion down to one sentence and carved it into stone, we can look at the implications more deeply. For example, the second law provides the answer to the question we posed earlier: Why do things happen the way they do, and not in reverse? The answer is that as things happen, the entropy of the universe increases. If they happened in reverse, the entropy would decrease. ...

Answer 5

Even astronomy points to a moment where time and space began.

and why must you try to justify that which is not natural? God made every living thing with the ability to reproduce after its own kind in its specific way, why on earth would He want a deviance? Also, God set a standard for families. Why is it so hard for one man and woman to love eachother, get married, have peace, and be fine with it? What is so wrong with that?

Answer 6

If everything must have been created, then God must have been created as well. If God is not created, then everything mustn't have a creator, so why should life or cosmos have one?

Besides this argument has another leap. If everything has a source and God is that source, then God must have existed without it before he created it. So if God created time and space, he must live outside of time and space. Thus he is non-existent. If all life must come from something and that is God, God is not alive and hence non-existent. If morals must come from God, God lacks morals. If logic comes from God, God is illogic. If nature comes from God, God is unnatural. If existence comes from God, God is non-existent. If God is the cause of everything, God is void.

Answer 7

If something created God then that thing would be more powerful than God.

Listen to this: if nothing created him, then nothing is more powerful than God.

Get it? Nothing is more powerful than God, because God is the most powerful.

It's the logic of the absolute. Read into it. Boethius, "Consolation of philosophy."

Answer 8

Because christians believe God created everything He was, is and always will be. Nothing can be greater than their creator, hence, nothing is greater than God.
Psalm 93;2 "Your throne was established long ago; you are from all eternity."
God has no time line, He doesn't live in our sense of 'time.' That's for us. He is in the past, present and future.

Answer 9

God is the same yesterday today and forever .. and i look at it as this physical universe with its laws was created by him and isnt the big reality of the other spiritual dimension .. we relate everything to our perception and the laws of this world and the other spiritual side has its own set of rules and laws that we dont fully comprehend from our point of view ...

Answer 10

Because "God" is just the fill-in answer when you don't know. He's a cypher. "The God ate my homework."

It's like the Hindu myth in which the universe is supported by an elephant, who, in turn, stands on a tortoise. You're not supposed to ask what the tortoise stands on.