What's the religious response to the argument...?

Question

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Creationists argue that evolution is wrong because it suggests that complicated life-forms evolved from initial chaos and single, simple life-forms. (I think that's fair?)

Well surely anything that could CREATE every single one of those complicated life-forms we have today must be infinitely more complicated?

A watch does not create a watch-maker, a pot does not make a potter.

The most complicated thing makes the simpler thing.

So arguing a God created everything, is suggesting that the most complex being conceivable, (one capable of making an entire universe and everything within it, and then monitoring it and answer our prayers), came first and created all the simpler things.

Does that not go against the initial arguement against evolution?

In response to Mike:

Haha, I have actually been reading The God Delusion. But I must admit, I've been quite strongly atheist for many years before. Dawkins just threw up a few better ways of explaining things. lol

Answer 1

An educated question, I just can't believe my eyes. Most brainstems won't understand what you are trying to explain, but you are absolutely giving a genious statement; you sound like a person that I'd take out for a drink and a good conversation. :)

Answer 2

I believe you've over-simplified the whole argument. Creationists believe in a higher, yes, complicated being having created us. I feel what you are missing is the point. Being created for a purpose. For the creationists that happen to believe in the Bible(you did ask for a religious response), evolution goes against the first couple of chapters of Genesis in the bible.
This argument could also be a little reversed. If a watch needs a watchmaker, how much more so would we(humans) need a "human-maker" -or creator.

Answer 3

Not at all, it goes right along with it. Ive never really thought about it that way but that is a brilliant argument against evolution. We do see a set created order in nature in that all things whether complex or simple (paper snowflake or nuclear reactor) first must have a beginning (time when it was concieved to creation) design (prethought set of plans) and a creator. (executor of the plan)

Just a creationist speaking but I fail to see how things so complex in this universe just happen out of the time and elements coming to together. One little miscut in the snow flake or one atmoic accelerator out of place and it doesnt work. Frankly I think it takes more faith to deny God than it does to believe in him.

Answer 4

Reading the God Delusion are we? It is very good point, if nothing can become complex without design then who designed the designer? If there is a god-like being it would have to have evolved through small, incremental steps. The idea that a vast, complex intelligence inexplicably pops out of nowhere is certainly a ridiculous claim and violates their own argument.

Answer 5

That argument can only be used to "prove" an infinite regression of Gods (as each complex God must have been created by a more complex God...). Unless you are proposing polytheism, the argument is inherently flawed. Therefore, it can't really be used for or against any Evolutionary argument...

Answer 6

I did read the entire argument, but I'm still not sure what side you're on. Are you asking whether the origin consisted in an infinitely complex being, or whether he would bother to create things simpler than himself?

Answer 7

Yes. It does, but then theists point out that God does not need a Creator because he exists outside of time, which is a concept our minds cannot comprehend but is thrown around like it's a fact.

Also, with further research of the theory of evolution, you may conclude that it is the only feasible explanation as to how complexity came to be....

Answer 8

The god argument goes that nothing complex can exist uncreated, so it must have all been created by something enormously complex that exists uncreated. Yeah, that makes as much sense as anything else in religion (i.e. none at all).