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Why should I respect Muslims when they endanger my life and freedom as an ex-Muslim? Why should I respect Muslims when they imprison and kill people like me? Why should I respect Muslims when apostates and critics of Islam wind up dead? Look at the Afghan convert who barely escaped with his life, look at the Azerbaijani writers who were locked up for abusing Muhammad and who the Iranians want dead, look at the Egyptian blogger who was jailed for four years, look at Turkish converts to Christianity who are on trial for defaming Islam and insulting Turkishness! Look at Ayaan Hirsi Ali, Daniel Pearl, Hitoshi Igarashi (he was Japanese!), Salman Rushdie, the Pope, Theo van Gogh! Need I go on? Even Craig David got death threats which he published on his site! Isn't it the way Muslims do things? Don't debate your critics like civilized human beings, shut them up! Every time I try and respect this religion it fails me. So tell me why I should respect the people who do this to me, to my people.

2007-02-26 00:28:49 · 14 answers · asked by ? 1 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

And yes, I am an Arab Egyptian ex-Muslim, and of course Muslims here will make believe I don't exist, it's what I just talked about here. Every time I talk to people who are supposedly ignorant Islamophobes or racists I see they have one hell of a point. Say what you want about Islam, and how much of it is true will shock you. Which do you consider more offensive, the Muhammad cartoons, or the Muslims who protested them by screaming EUROPE, GET READY FOR THE REAL HOLOCAUST?

2007-02-26 00:29:46 · update #1

Typical Muslim answer. Nothing but vulgarity, name-calling, totally avoiding answering the question, ignoring all my points. Why don't you go answer the call of nature in your father's bedroom?

2007-02-26 00:40:41 · update #2

Turkey is the only Muslim country on Earth that can be called a secular democracy, and that's because it was de-Islamized by Kemal Attaturk almost 80 years ago. He abolished Islamic law, banned the veil, and Latinized the Turkish alphabet. Also, Turkey is pursuing its secular democracy, at least in theory, to join the EU. But even Turkey's record is imperfect. It's 100,000 Christians complain of a suppressive environment, and a number of high-profile Turks have been tried for insulting Islam (like the converts), insulting Turkishness, or defending the Armenian genocide.

2007-02-26 00:43:00 · update #3

Malaysia is a secular democracy my foot! Matahir Muhammad, the ex-Prime Minister, called it an ISLAMIC COUNTRY. Leaving Islam is a CRIME in at least five states. Have you ever heard of Lina Joy?

2007-02-26 00:49:21 · update #4

It's a secular democracy on paper! Supposedly we have the right to freedom of religion according to the Egyptian constitution, so why would I be thrown behind bars if I changed my religion?! You're all talk, man, you're all talk! You think freedom is something you write on a wall, you don't actually practice it.

2007-02-26 00:52:46 · update #5

How many Muslims are there? 1.5 billion? 20% of the world's population? And how many Nobels have they won? 10, 15? Yasser Arafat shared the Nobel Peace Prize with Israeli Prime Minister Yizhak Rabin. And he was a former terrorist. The PLO carried out many civilian massacres and blew gas pipes in Israeli homes in the 70s, just as Hamas is doing today, before they agreed to conditions similar to those of the Quartet in exchange for self-rule in Gaza and the West Bank.

2007-02-26 00:57:10 · update #6

And it's worth noting that even Palestinian ex-Muslims are persecuted.

2007-02-26 00:58:13 · update #7

Vivian what do Christians do? Blow themselves up? Have civil wars? Kill people for insulting Jesus? Can you name one country in the world that still follows Bibilical law? Have you ever heard of Christians converting to Islam and paying with their lives? Some Muslims are good people in spite of Islam, not because of it. Islam makes them the way they are. Far from being a great religion, it is a totalitarian ideology.

2007-02-26 01:01:09 · update #8

By All Means how can you say the death sentence for apostasy is not justified by Islam when all major schools of Islamic jurispidence agree on it, when it always makes the news, when it's grounded in the hadeeth and fatwas even in Al Azhar University, which is near where I live btw?

http://www.islamqa.com/index.php?ref=696&ln=eng&txt=apostate
http://www.islamqa.com/index.php?ref=811&ln=eng&txt=apostate
http://www.islamqa.com/index.php?ref=7328&ln=eng&txt=apostate
http://www.islamqa.com/index.php?ref=20327&ln=eng&txt=apostate
http://www.islamqa.com/index.php?ref=22809&ln=eng&txt=apostate

What use is it denying something that's so well proven and documented in Islamic literature? For the life of me, I'll never understand why people think they can say apostates aren't killed.

2007-02-26 01:10:01 · update #9

"Yes, may be what you said is true.But on the other hand its also true that Muslims can do anything for the sake of its religion.And the suit will follow even in the future if any buddy talks CRAP about islam and our prophets.Atleast I dont think that anything has went wrong upto date.If you love ISLAM, if you have faith in ALLAH and the PROPHETS you will definately agree with me.Its sad, really sad to hear that you converted yourself from Muslim to another religion."

So in other words, this isn't because of MUSLIMS, but because of what ISLAM teaches them to do, and critics and apostates of Islam deserve everything they're getting because they 'talk crap' about Islam and its prophet. It's exactly this idiotic attitude that caused me to leave the religion. Muslims don't think with their heads. Things that any modern rational human being would condemn, like the execution of apostates, find a pseudo-logical explanation in the minds of Muslims.

2007-02-26 01:15:06 · update #10

Culture is just an excuse. When Muhammad says 'Whoever changes his religion, kill him' and apostates are killed, it's not culture. It's Islam.

2007-02-26 01:17:00 · update #11

"I KNOW YOU YOU ARE THAT ISRAELI GUY WHO PRETEND TO B EGYPTIAN AND X MUSLIM TOO POOR U"

Lol @ the Israeli spy theory. You're not the first to toss it at me though.

Would I take the time to learn Arabic if I were an Internet fake?

أنا مرتد عن الاسلام

2007-02-26 01:25:34 · update #12

"You have gone mad ! Go to mental hospital.

You know nothing about Islam.

You are working on your hidden agenda - creating confusion!!"

Lol.

Tell that to the sheikh of the five fatwas I posted. Whatever I know about Islam, it's probably a notch more than you do.

2007-02-26 01:45:57 · update #13

"First you write too long. Second if you were a Muslim you wouldn't have left Islam. I feel sorry for you because your full of hate and lost. Hopefully on day you will realize that Islam is the correct religion and repent to ALLAH. And no I don't feel sorry for the apostates."

First, I write this long because I have to refute answers like yours.
Second, leaving Islam is the best thing I have ever done for myself. I am a MUCH MORE ENLIGHTENED person than I EVER WAS as a Muslim. No more anti-Semitism, no more misogyny, no more superstitions about hell for billions of unbelievers, no more justifying pedophilia on account of the nightmarish thug you call a prophet. You can feel sorry for me if you want, that's just the kind of defense you use if you have nothing to refute me with. If Islam is the correct religion, then there is no God indeed, because a true God would never command the things in Islam. And we don't ask for pity, we ask for an end to the bullsh.it spread by your kind.

2007-02-26 03:51:13 · update #14

Nice avatar, by the way. You think of yourself as 96% vagina and 4% woman.

2007-02-26 03:51:50 · update #15

"U are a loser."
Very academic! I'm converting now. :-)
"U lost your identity."
I was living a double life, a lie. I gave up my inferior identity for something greater. I rose in life from a Muslim to a true human being.
"U lost your senses."
Just the reverse, I sharpened my senses and made them very acute. I think for MYSELF. I think with my HEAD. You let some musty old book written 1,400 years ago by a pedophile do your thinking for you. You have no self. You're like an ant that only thinks of itself as part of a colony. You have no individualism.
"U lost your pride as a Muslim b4."
I am tremendously proud of being an apostate, and defending my beliefs against Muslims like you who are responsible for all the barbaric treatment we undergo.
"U lost the true religion and convert to something worst."
I lost a religion that preached pedophilia, violence, hatred, bigotry! I lost a culture of death. You overestimate your disgusting faith.

2007-02-26 03:55:45 · update #16

"U lost the respect from the people not only around U, even in this forum."
Are you kidding? Do you know how many famous ex-Muslim intellectuals are out there? Do you know Ayaan Hirsi Ali, Ibn Warraq, Ali Sina, Nonie Darwish, Parvin Darabi, Salman Rushdie? They are hailed as personalities of great wisdom and enlightenment. I am very respected for the choice I made. Of course, you wouldn't understand because without Islam you are nothing. You have no mind, no sense of self. You are a clone.

"That is the retribution of ALLAH S.W.T. to whoever Muslims who leave their religion and become a non Muslim, he / she will never have peace in his / her entire life in this world."
If I can't have peace, you won't have peace either. I will rock your religion to its intellectual foundations. I will never stop debating, criticizing, researching, writing, learning, and challenging every Muslim to defend the barbaric theories and practices of this cult which is a tumor on the face of civilization.

2007-02-26 03:59:22 · update #17

Why don't you prove me wrong buddy? If I'm everything you said I am, why don't you debate me and prove me wrong instead of insulting and defaming me like a good Muslim would? WHY DON'T YOU HAVE ANYTHING WORTHY OF MENTION TO SAY? You're a waste of my time.

2007-02-26 04:00:25 · update #18

And next time make your post RELEVANT TO THE QUESTION YOU NUMBSKULL.

2007-02-26 04:02:46 · update #19

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sup troll, bored, go do some charity work. read to the blind, feed the hungry, collect clothing for the poor. why are so many of your questions getting yanked, trolling ?

Malaysia is secular democracy and their are others too, for a troll you don't seem very informed, sup with that??

2007-02-26 00:38:21 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 2 4

I don't think it has anything to do with religion. It's much more about resisting Western influences and even what is deemed to be a Western religion (Christianity). Since much of that part of the world was only untill recently under imperialistic forces.

This same feeling is felt in those live in the West that some how the west are working to erode or demean the Islamic religion.

Here is the truth about aposatacy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TYOCR_6pFc

However many of the things the Muslim countries do are not justfied by Islam but politicians hide behind Islam to justify their actions.

O you who believe stand out firmly for justice, as witnesses to Allah, even as against yourselves, or your parents or your kin, and whether it be (against) rich or poor

Quran An Nisa Chapter 4 Verse 135

2007-02-26 09:03:42 · answer #2 · answered by By Any Means Necessary 5 · 3 1

Yes, may be what you said is true.But on the other hand its also true that Muslims can do anything for the sake of its religion.And the suit will follow even in the future if any buddy talks CRAP about islam and our prophets.Atleast I dont think that anything has went wrong upto date.If you love ISLAM, if you have faith in ALLAH and the PROPHETS you will definately agree with me.Its sad, really sad to hear that you converted yourself from Muslim to another religion.

2007-02-26 09:03:32 · answer #3 · answered by Z....... 2 · 1 1

First you write too long. Second if you were a Muslim you wouldn't have left Islam. I feel sorry for you because your full of hate and lost. Hopefully on day you will realize that Islam is the correct religion and repent to ALLAH. And no I don't feel sorry for the apostates.

2007-02-26 11:42:57 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

U are a loser. U lost your identity. U lost your senses. U lost your pride as a Muslim b4. U lost the true religion and convert to something worst. U lost the respect from the people not only around U, even in this forum. That is the retribution of ALLAH S.W.T. to whoever Muslims who leave their religion and become a non Muslim, he / she will never have peace in his / her entire life in this world.

2007-02-26 11:48:02 · answer #5 · answered by atbt 4 · 1 0

it doesn't mean that some muslims paractise violence and terrorthat islam calls for terror ,
if you take a look at the world you 'll find that all people are killed and kill ( muslims and christians and jews and non- ibrahemieniens too )
Let's remmber the wars away from islam see how they was ruthlessly!!!
And if you think that islam order to kill you , why don't we say that christianity ordered to kill US ???
Are arab christiens who live with muslims in one country say that ???
Never ,, chrstianity is a releigion of mercy exactly like Islam because they are a religion of God ..
let's talk about honestly . Iran doesn't possess nuclear weapons to threaten your security , you too possess nuclear weapons , why don't we say that you threaten the wor;d's security ?!!!
Iran possess this weapons to protect itself from U.S.A. and Isreal ,
let's remmber what usa had done in Japan at the world war (away of islam ) and to remmber the threat to Korea for possessing nuclear weapons . you posses this weapons and say that you protect the world while you refuse others to possess these weapons to protect themselves from you !
let's talk about Iraq a little . just one question and let's be honest with ourselves , is blood rights cheaper than oil ????!!
You call won democracy and human rights and the first item is ( the right of living ) while you who elicits this right from the iraqis and afghanaians from your wars , ( the right of to live in peace ) and you took this right from the whole world !!!
why don't you look at the mirror and see your heinous crimes against innocents throughtout the ages ,
But do you think by this wars you will eliminate us ??! Never , it is impossible to eliminate a nation ,, impossible !!!
We are humans too ..

By this i mean that Islam is a great religion , a religion of God , my God and your God and it is not a doctorine or a cult as some though by evidences you and your scientists have proved it , and all what happened is a plan to denigrate islam for political and material reasons , they induced you that islam is a religion of terror to occupy our countries eaisly ,, Islam is a great religion , it is a religion of mercy not terror ...

2007-02-27 09:14:38 · answer #6 · answered by ghada e 1 · 0 0

I am not Muslim, and I will not pretend you don't exist. But I have a question. Why then, was my sister-in-law able to marry outside of her religion and get out of Islam with no trouble? She was born and raised in Turkey as a Muslim.

Thanks for answering my question.

2007-02-26 08:40:22 · answer #7 · answered by There can only be one - (ANSWER) 4 · 1 0

Not all muslims are bad people! I think Islam is one of the best religions. It is supposed to be peaceful, but who is giving them peace the americans? There are Christians out there who do much worse but people never talk about them? why? can u answer this Question?

2007-02-26 08:58:01 · answer #8 · answered by **Lilyanne** 3 · 3 1

I'm questioning whether it's the religion of Islam that causes such atrocities or the cultures that follow it?

2007-02-26 09:15:25 · answer #9 · answered by ViolationsRus 4 · 0 0

You have gone mad ! Go to mental hospital.

You know nothing about Islam.

You are working on your hidden agenda - creating confusion!!

2007-02-26 09:43:33 · answer #10 · answered by aslam09221 6 · 1 1

You shouldn't respect anyone whom you don't want to respect.
Now go and don't respect Yaser Arafat who won the Nobel Prize of Peace somewhere else :)

2007-02-26 08:54:02 · answer #11 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

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