Exodus 20:3, Isaiah 14:21, Ezekiel 18:20 ? Make sense of this.?

Question

Let talk openly about these scriptures.


Exodus 20:5
5Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

Isaiah 14:
21Prepare slaughter for his children for the iniquity of their fathers; that they do not rise, nor possess the land, nor fill the face of the world with cities.

Ezekiel 18:20
The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him

Optimus Prime. You have the "HOLY SPIRIT" your so rude...

I didin't ask for insults, is that how Jesus taught?

I found another scripture seems to Explain...John 9
1And as Jesus passed by, he saw a man which was blind from his birth.

2And his disciples asked him, saying, Master, who did sin, this man, or his parents, that he was born blind?

3Jesus answered, Neither hath this man sinned, nor his parents: but that the works of God should be made manifest in him.

Cork, Your rude also.

If you want to "Guide" someone with a "sincere caring heart", you make a recommendation. But, you don't need to be rude and "gloat" about how "knowledgable" you are. Praise Cork for his Great wisdom. Is that what you want? Give me a break. I asked because I wanted to know, not get insulted. PEOPLE WITH THE "Holy Spirit", if that is what your have. Walk in it. No one is gonna want to ask you anything about the Lord if your not "read to teach" in a Humble spirit. Read your commentary about that!

Jeremiah 2: 9
9Wherefore I will yet plead with you, saith the LORD, and with your children's children will I plead.

ANOTHER SCRIPTURE THAT EXPLAINS IT WELL

Answer 1

The first commandment, “You must not have any other gods against my face,” put Jehovah first. (Ex 20:3) It involved his lofty office and unique position as God Almighty, the Most High, the Supreme Sovereign. This commandment indicated that the Israelites were not to have any other gods as rivals to Jehovah.

The proverbial saying ends with final orders to the conquering Medes and Persians: “Make ready, you men, a slaughtering block for his own sons because of the error of their forefathers, that they may not rise up and actually take possession of the earth and fill the face of the productive land with cities.” (Isaiah 14:21) The fall of Babylon will be permanent. The Babylonian dynasty will be rooted out. There will be no renaissance. Future generations of Babylonians will suffer because of “the error of their forefathers.”

The judgment pronounced against the Babylonian dynasty provides a valuable lesson for us. The root of the Babylonian kings’ sin was their endless ambition. Their hearts were filled with a desire for power. They wanted to dominate others. And they lusted after glory from men, which rightly belongs to God. (Revelation 4:11) This is a warning to any in authority,even in the Christian congregation. Ambition and selfish pride are characteristics that Jehovah will not tolerate, either in individuals or in nations.

The pride of the Babylonian rulers was a reflection of the spirit of “the god of this system of things,” Satan the Devil. (2 Corinthians 4:4) He too lusts for power and longs to place himself above Jehovah God. As was the case with the king of Babylon and the people he subjugated, Satan’s unholy ambition has resulted in misery and suffering for all mankind.

Another seeming contradiction is found by comparing Exodus 34:7 with Ezekiel 18:20. The first text states that God would bring “punishment for the error of fathers upon sons and upon grandsons,” while the latter states that “a son himself will bear nothing because of the error of the father.” Why do these texts appear to be contradictory? Because they are taken out of context. Examine the surrounding material and setting. It then becomes obvious that when God mentioned punishment as coming upon not only fathers but also sons and grandsons, he was speaking of what would result to Israelites as a nation if they sinned against him and were taken into captivity. On the other hand, when mentioning that a son would not be liable for the error of his father, he was speaking of personal accountability.

This was primarily referring to adults. The context speaks of a son who witnessed his father’s wickedness but refused to share in it; instead, the son carried out Jehovah’s judicial decisions and walked in His statutes. Such a son would be preserved when his father died. Ezekiel 18:14-17.

Answer 2

Its difficult to make sense of 3 different passages when they are taken completely out of context. It helps to think of the books in the bible as if they are written like a history book. Go back to where those verses are taken from to see what the context is that God is saying things like that. Also, beliefs were different in the Old testament as in the new. The references to the fathers sins may have something to do with this.

Ex 20:5 looks like God referring to idolatry, but I cant be certain without any of the background in front of me.

Isiah 14:21 I have no idea who is saying that or who it is regarding. Need more context info.

Ezek 18:20 Also not entirely sure of this one and dont want to give a wrong answer, just for the sake of answering. The first sentence seems the most straightforward and meaningful. I'd take it at face value.

I think salvation is the most important aspect of the bible. In-depth philosophizing about other things are only marginally important compared to Jesus' sacrifice. These verses look like fair warning to non-Christians as to what will happen if they continue sinning. Hopefully the context of the verses will give you some more insight as to the reason for the similarities.

Answer 3

Morning, why do you not understand though the words though they stare you in the face?

Exodus 20:5 is very clear, the iniquities of the fathers will be visited upon the children who hates God. Get it?

Ezekiel 18:20 then goes on to say that inquities of the father remains with the father and those of the son remains with the son, why? Because if the father is evil, but the son loves God, how can God visit the inqiuity of the father on the son? And vice versa.

I hope this answers your question.

Answer 4

You are assuming, which is always bad by the way, that these verses are speaking of the same thing.

The first two refer to a state of original sin in which a child is conceived but the faith of the parents can redeem a child from their sin through a confession of this faith. In ancient Judaism this was practiced in two symbolic ways not being necessary since the Lord knows the secret things of the hearts and minds of men thus girls being exempt, first through circumcision after the covenant was established with Abraham and second through the redemption process established after the Passover of the Lord. Through the new covenant established by Jesus Baptism was appointed the new way in which a witness and confession of faith was established by which a child was to be witnessed as a member of the kingdom of God.

The second refers to actual sin, thus once a child being conceived is subject to confessing, absolving, and redeeming only their own sins and the same goes for the father. The important thing here is that a man is judged according to his faith and the deeds that come from that faith in life and not anything that another does or leaves undone.

Answer 5

Pay attention to the condition that exist for this to happen. GOD will visit the iniquity of the fathers to the hundredth generation IF those children continue in the idolatry of their fathers.WHO is this talking about?? ALL THINGS THAT OFFEND.ISA. 14:20 The seed of the evil doers shall never be renowned.For all evil will be gone .You get what you got coming to you .IF you continue?? it's up to you.

Answer 6

Only if you are saved and guided by the Holy Spirit. If not it is useless fires.

Answer 7

SO SIMPLE A CHILD COULD UNDERTAND.

EXCEPT THOSE WHO SEEK TO FIND FAULT.
ONE CAN'T UNDERTAND WHAT ONE FAILS TO COMPREHEND.

SURELY YOU HAVE A COMPANION BIBLE--
OR A SMITH'S OR CONCORDANCE..
ALLOW EITHER ONE TO INTERPRET FOR YOU..

OR READ ANY OF THESE...
http://eword.gospelcom.net/comments/galatians/gill/galatians3.htm


Darby | Geneva | Gill | Jamieson Faussett Brown | Johnson | Luther | Matthew Henry

THEY CAN EXPLAIN IT INDEPTH IF ONE "CARES" TO READ.

Answer 8

You can't make sense of nonsense.

Love and blessings Don

Answer 9

Edit:
Nice references...its ashame that so many people allow zeal to turn to rudeness...its unfortunate that people do not see that you have to reach out in love to the lost without compromising the word. Coming across as rude never shows the love of Christ

The first two refrenced scriptures refer to people behaving in the same way as their fathers. The scriipture refered to from ezekial is taken out of context...the whole scripture says that God is saying that a child does not have to follow his fathers iniquity...we all have choices and we all have the choice to be righteouss in the eyes of God even if our father may be a vile human being

Ezekiel 18

5But if a man be just, and do that which is lawful and right,

6And hath not eaten upon the mountains, neither hath lifted up his eyes to the idols of the house of Israel, neither hath defiled his neighbour's wife, neither hath come near to a menstruous woman,

7And hath not oppressed any, but hath restored to the debtor his pledge, hath spoiled none by violence, hath given his bread to the hungry, and hath covered the naked with a garment;

8He that hath not given forth upon usury, neither hath taken any increase, that hath withdrawn his hand from iniquity, hath executed true judgment between man and man,

9Hath walked in my statutes, and hath kept my judgments, to deal truly; he is just, he shall surely live, saith the Lord GOD.

10If he beget a son that is a robber, a shedder of blood, and that doeth the like to any one of these things,

11And that doeth not any of those duties, but even hath eaten upon the mountains, and defiled his neighbour's wife,

12Hath oppressed the poor and needy, hath spoiled by violence, hath not restored the pledge, and hath lifted up his eyes to the idols, hath committed abomination,

13Hath given forth upon usury, and hath taken increase: shall he then live? he shall not live: he hath done all these abominations; he shall surely die; his blood shall be upon him.

14Now, lo, if he beget a son, that seeth all his father's sins which he hath done, and considereth, and doeth not such like,

15That hath not eaten upon the mountains, neither hath lifted up his eyes to the idols of the house of Israel, hath not defiled his neighbour's wife,

16Neither hath oppressed any, hath not withholden the pledge, neither hath spoiled by violence, but hath given his bread to the hungry, and hath covered the naked with a garment,

17That hath taken off his hand from the poor, that hath not received usury nor increase, hath executed my judgments, hath walked in my statutes; he shall not die for the iniquity of his father, he shall surely live.

18As for his father, because he cruelly oppressed, spoiled his brother by violence, and did that which is not good among his people, lo, even he shall die in his iniquity.

19Yet say ye, Why? doth not the son bear the iniquity of the father? When the son hath done that which is lawful and right, and hath kept all my statutes, and hath done them, he shall surely live.

20The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.

21But if the wicked will turn from all his sins that he hath committed, and keep all my statutes, and do that which is lawful and right, he shall surely live, he shall not die.

22All his transgressions that he hath committed, they shall not be mentioned unto him: in his righteousness that he hath done he shall live.

23Have I any pleasure at all that the wicked should die? saith the Lord GOD: and not that he should return from his ways, and live?

24But when the righteous turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, and doeth according to all the abominations that the wicked man doeth, shall he live? All his righteousness that he hath done shall not be mentioned: in his trespass that he hath trespassed, and in his sin that he hath sinned, in them shall he die.

25Yet ye say, The way of the LORD is not equal. Hear now, O house of Israel; Is not my way equal? are not your ways unequal?

26When a righteous man turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, and dieth in them; for his iniquity that he hath done shall he die.

27Again, when the wicked man turneth away from his wickedness that he hath committed, and doeth that which is lawful and right, he shall save his soul alive.

28Because he considereth, and turneth away from all his transgressions that he hath committed, he shall surely live, he shall not die.

29Yet saith the house of Israel, The way of the LORD is not equal. O house of Israel, are not my ways equal? are not your ways unequal?

30Therefore I will judge you, O house of Israel, every one according to his ways, saith the Lord GOD. Repent, and turn yourselves from all your transgressions; so iniquity shall not be your ruin.

31Cast away from you all your transgressions, whereby ye have transgressed; and make you a new heart and a new spirit: for why will ye die, O house of Israel?

32For I have no pleasure in the death of him that dieth, saith the Lord GOD: wherefore turn yourselves, and live ye.