It seems odd to me that Jesus would be the heir to the throne of a conquered nation during an occupation and not be well known by every citizen....including the occupiers.
I'm probably misunderstanding some piece of it.
Any thoughts on this?
2007-02-25 12:41:21 · 10 answers · asked by Samurai Jack 6 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Not exactly like Clovis....unless Europeans had a set of beliefs which they passed on regarding a messiah coming from the line of Clovis?
2007-02-25 12:48:52 · update #1
who?
2007-02-25 17:31:33 · answer #1 · answered by Born of a Broken Man 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
In Matthew chapter 1, the first 18 verses, is listed the genealogy of Jesus. It shows that his (step)father Joseph was a direct descendant of King David and the other kings of Judah. Because Jesus was his legal (even though not biological) son, it would have placed Jesus in that line. However, the last person to serve as king over an unoccupied government was 15 generations (or about 500-600 year) before the time of Jesus.
After all that time, the lineage no longer had an importance in the government or politics of that era. It would be about the same as identifying who would be the head of the Inca Indian tribe. While it is probably possible to find that person - how many people would care? That line has no power or importance today.
The leadership of Israel had transfered to the family of Herod the Great. You will find a lot of information on him and his lineage. His is one of the best documented families in history from the era.
2007-02-25 13:00:00 · answer #2 · answered by dewcoons 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
That isn't unusual when you consider that the Jewish monarchy was dissolved nearly 500 years before the birth of Christ. That's like saying that every European should know exactly who the descendants of Clovis are today. And we have the benefit of genealogical research, the printing press, and wide-spread literacy.
You also have to keep in mind that Herod the Great destroyed all of the Jewish genealogical records when he came to power, and executed anyone who even superficically claimed to have been descended from David. And that restriction was in force years before Jesus was even born.
As for Clovis, keep in mind that he (and his successors) claimed descent from Poseidon, Samson, and the Trojan refugees, and maintained that the legitimate heir to the throne was appointed by God due to his divine ancestry. Sounds familiar. And most Jews in the time of Christ expected the restoration of the Davidic monarchy - not the incarnation of a divine God-man who would usher in an apocalyptic overthrow of all earthly governments.
2007-02-25 12:46:10 · answer #3 · answered by NONAME 7 · 1⤊ 1⤋
Of course he was not the heir to any throne of the nation of Isreal, there was King Herod and his family who were the recognized royalty at the time, and put in place by the Romans. David and Solomon had loads of kids, and loads of descendents. Not every descendent is an heir to the throne.
2007-02-25 12:47:22 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
Jesus was not an heir as people would see him. He is the King of Kings and Lord of Lords.... but his kingdom is not a physical or worldly kingdom. The kingdom of Jesus was the spiritual kingdom established through his sacrifice... the jews of the era missed this since they sought another warrior king like David of old to bring them out from under the yoke of Roman slavery. Since they were looking for one kind of king, they missed the true king who walked in their midst.
2007-02-25 12:51:28 · answer #5 · answered by yesterdaylair 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Although he is a descendant by way of Joseph, he was not a royal heir.
Another possible spin that you can put on it is:
Not if you believe in the virgin birth!
The royal line goes by the male descendancy line.
Joseph was of the House of David.
The direct line from David to Jesus given in the Bible goes through Joseph, not Mary.
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2007-02-25 12:50:28 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
He is in the line of David and after 400 years it would be pretty long. But, yes, Jesus had God wished it made the line flow through Joseph.
My wife is a descendant of the Risley line. Have you heard of them? I would be surprised if you had. I am sure if you do a census of friends and maybe even family you might find royalty hiding in your blood.
2007-02-25 13:00:02 · answer #7 · answered by crimthann69 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I don't think he came to be king of Israel the present country of his time but to start setting up the Kingdom of Heaven. When he returns he will rule the whole world from Jerusalem and then he will be king of Israel and the whole earth.
2007-02-25 14:38:23 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
The Messiah (YAHOSHUA) is a suffering savior, and also a conquering King. the Jews said it had to be at the same time. He has already been the Savior. When He comes back it will be as a king!
2007-02-25 12:45:13 · answer #9 · answered by hasse_john 7 · 0⤊ 2⤋
Jesus is Lord of Lord and King of Kings. All power and authority is His therefore all thrones and Kings are subject to Him.
2007-02-25 12:46:19 · answer #10 · answered by Tribble Macher 6 · 0⤊ 1⤋