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positives for the u.s. and iraq

2007-02-25 11:28:52 · 7 answers · asked by michael f 1 in Politics & Government Military

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There are only two things we should fight for. One is the defense of our homes and the other is the Bill of Rights. War for any other reason is simply a racket. - General Smedley D. Butler

The U.S. has won nothing so far. I speak of the PEOPLE of America, not the ruling elite. The American people have lost their freedoms via the Patriot Act. Their daughters, sons and husbands are returned home in flag draped boxes or hideously injured in body and spirit.

They have lost $369,232,548,295. Go to the link below. Think of the positive changes that money could have made if applied to those in need, the poor, and the elderly, the health and education systems! Instead both parties have been systematically cutting these vital services to the nation's most vulnerable claiming they are out of money!

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/

The opponents of social spending are using the escalating Pentagon budget (in combination with drastic tax cuts for the wealthy) as a cynical and roundabout way of redistributing national income in favor of the wealthy. As this combination of increasing military spending and decreasing tax liabilities of the wealthy creates wide gaps in the Federal budget, it then justifies the slashing of non-military public spending-a subtle and insidious policy of reversing the New Deal reforms, a policy that began under Reagan.

While America has lost a great deal of respect on the world stage, the citizens of America have lost a great deal of respect for their government and all it stands for. Many disbelieve the mainstream media, television and press. Most horrific is the fact that, due to brainwashing of the much of the public, these good citizens have lost the freedom of dissent unless they wish to be labeled unpatriotic or traitorous.

Not everyone is losing in Iraq. While the Bush administration's wars have brought unnecessary death, destruction, and disaster to millions, including many from the Unites States, they have also brought fortunes and prosperity to war profiteers. At the heart of the reluctance to withdraw from Iraq lies the profiteers' unwillingness to give up further fortunes and spoils of war.

Large Pentagon contractors have been the main beneficiaries of this windfall. These profiteers include not only the giant manufacturing contractors such as Lockheed Martin, Northrop Grumman and Boeing, but also a complex maze of over 100,000 service contractors and sub-contractors such as private army or security corporations and "reconstruction" firms. These contractors of both deconstruction and "reconstruction," whose profits come mainly from the US treasury, have handsomely profited from the Bush administration's wars of choice

Concerns of humanity are secondary to the booming business of war and the prospects of controlling Iraq's politics and economics. Powerful beneficiaries of war dividends, who are often indistinguishable from the policy makers who pushed for the invasion of Iraq, are pocketing hundreds of billions of dollars. It is the pursuit and the safeguarding of those spoils of war that are keeping US troops in Iraq. There is a great deal to be made supplying arms to two sides of a bloody conflict that you have helped set ablaze by use of agent provocateurs. I.E. The Shiites and the Suni.

The rise of the fortunes of the major Pentagon contractors can be measured, in part, by the growth of the Pentagon budget since George W. Bush took the Presidency. (Considering he stole it from Gore, that has a rather interesting ring to it). It has grown by more than 50 percent, from nearly $300 billion in 2001 to almost $455 billion in 2007. These figures do not include the Homeland Security budget, which is $33 billion for the 2007 fiscal year alone, and the costs of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

That is what America has gotten so far. Impressive gains for the civilians, NOT.

As for Iraq. What has it gained? Granted the main excuse was to remove Saddam, a fellow Mason and old business pal of the Senior Bush, who fell out of favour with his Illuminati masters. "Once Saddam touched the West's oil in Kuwait, he was marked for death. Before that, the American government, despite posing, really did not care what he did to his people or the Kurds. The people have gained in that small degree.

They have certainly not seen the reconstruction that was promised! The service and "rebuilding" contractors are called "reconstruction rackets" not only because they obtain no-bid contracts from their policy-making accomplices, but also because they shirk on their contracts and skimp on their promises. It has been proven that despite "billions of dollars spent, key pieces of Iraq's infrastructure-power plants, telephone exchanges, and sewage and sanitation systems-have not been repaired, or fixed so poorly that they don't function."

The giant Pentagon contractor Bechtel has been given tens of millions to repair Iraq's schools. Few have been touched, and several schools that Bechtel claims to have repaired never were. One so-called repaired school was overflowing with unflushed sewage. Out of a $2.2 billion "reconstruction" contract with Halliburton, the company spent only 10 percent on "community needs-the rest being spent on servicing U.S. troops and rebuilding oil pipelines.

There are no shortcuts to establishing democracy in Iraq. If it is to be genuine and long lasting, democracy must grow organically and its roots must emerge from a fearless critique of the status quo: Saddam Hussein’s chauvinist régime has been removed by military intervention, whose objectives serve U.S. imperial interests, and not those of the people of Iraq.

This has proven to be catastrophic for the inhabitants of that country. Iraq, after decades of ruthless despotism and strangulation, can emerge from this morass if we are to understand that it possesses the human, intellectual, historical, and the will for effecting this change. In spite of decades of political repression, the populace, at large, endeavors to be educated, cultured and worldly, have a sense of humor, and build their country. They have had an astounding will for progress. This is Iraq before the war: This video show Iraqi people at play 2 weeks before the invasion:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bC4EJ8Jlck0
Contrast that with the scenes we see in the news today.

The Iraqi elections of January 30, 2005, were little more than an international a public relations coup. The media showed what seemed to be millions of voters heading to the polls in the face of incredible insurgency opposition. The insurgency killed many but the democratic process was said to have triumphed. The human spirit which is said to power the democratic process seemingly validated Bush's invasion, erasing memories of unfound WMD and unproven links between Saddam and bin Laden.

Remember the famous words of the infamous Illuminati dictator, Josef Stalin, who never lost an election. Stalin told all people of all ages how an election is held:

“He who casts his vote counts for nothing; but he who counts the vote counts for everything.”

(Gosh, Florida! Bush! Gore!)

The Illuminati won the election. Nobody wins elections better than the Illuminati!

“It doesn't matter who the people voted for; they always vote for us" - Joseph Stalin, Illuminati -

Contrary to what breathless media reporters portrayed to the world, these elections were sheer hypocrisy that has led to the country’s disintegration. The Iraqis will realize later the game plan behind these elections. Who are these elections really for? The Iraqi people or the American Administration's PR machine? What are the real intentions behind these elections? The unification or the disintegration Iraq?

Americans are used to voting for individuals for office, and assumed this election was in that vein. We did not realize that voters had to vote "straight party tickets", which would elect appointed office holders. And, who appointed these faceless candidates who would take office once their party won? The Americans, of course!

This was an American concoction. Under the guise of holding an election which most Americans think is like our elections, Bush stacked the deck in favor of getting into office a pro-American government. Meanwhile the world believes these guys were elected

This system punished groups like the Sunnis who refused to vote. They found themselves under the tyranny of the majority, and began to be persecuted by majority Shiites and the Kurds. Every group and nation in the Middle East hates the Kurds. It was almost guaranteed that if the Kurds gained a representation in the new Iraqi government which is greater than their population, civil war would break out.

The Americans did not leave as the Iraqis believed after the elections. The violence escalated as we now. The country as hoped for by the Illuminati was divided into various factions: Sunnis, Shiites and Kurds. Agent provocateurs and munitions agents ensured this would be the case.

A naked power play has been carried out under the cover of "free, democratic" elections. The Illuminati version of the Golden Rule is absolutely true: "He who has the gold makes the rules". Since the Americans made the rules, the American supported candidates will win, and few people will ever know the truth.

Now you know the type of "freedom and liberty" President Bush means which he promises to spread far beyond Iraq, to the rest of the Non-Integrating states of the world. While his words sound wonderful and inspiring, the President has not told anyone that he has completely redefined those words.

The Iraqi have lost much more than they gained. They have lost lives, homes, and all vestiges of security. They are now embroiled in a bloody war that will not go away.

In other words, only the Illuminati and their friends have accomplished anything positive. For themselves, not the rest of the world!

2007-02-25 11:33:53 · answer #1 · answered by Noor al Haqiqa 6 · 3 2

In January, Keith Olbermann said that the war in Iraq, which he called "senseless" and "endless", has succeeded in doing two things.

"It has succeeded, Mr. Bush, in enabling you to deaden the collective mind of this country to the pointlessness of endless war, against the wrong people, in the wrong place, at the wrong time.

"It has gotten many of us, used to the idea — the virtual 'white noise' — of conflict far away, of the deaths of young Americans, of vague 'sacrifice' for some fluid cause, too complicated to be interpreted except in terms of the very important sounding, but ultimately meaningless phrase, 'the war on terror.'

"And the war's second accomplishment — your second accomplishment, sir - is to have taken money out of the pockets of every American, even out of the pockets of the dead soldiers on the battlefield, and their families, and to have given that money to the war profiteers.

"Because if you sell the Army a thousand Humvees, you can't sell them any more, until the first thousand have been destroyed.

"The service men and women are ancillary to the equation.

"This is about the planned obsolescence of ordnance, isn't, Mr. Bush? And the building of detention centers? And the design of a 125-million dollar courtroom complex at Gitmo complete with restaurants!

"At least the war profiteers have made their money, sir.

"And we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain."

I think that sums it up quite nicely.

2007-02-25 13:12:58 · answer #2 · answered by smoke16507 3 · 2 1

not extra no flyzone not extra threat to Kuwait and speeding tens of hundreds of troops there. A vicious dictator and his 3 sons have been placed out of commision. The Al-Qadea in Iraq chief who killed Daniel Pearl is out of commision. a lot of Terrorists have been eradicated

2016-10-16 11:55:06 · answer #3 · answered by ? 4 · 0 0

Listen to Aaron T. I am sure that if he is so certain of the quasi-Decalogue he has just enunciated, it must be because he has spoken to many Iraqis while he was there to really see what was truly happening. I mean, no chance at all you can repeat what you see on TV with true and thought-out conviction, right....?

2007-02-25 12:27:12 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

the positives for the u.s is that we now know the importance of not blindly believing "evidence" that your leaders tell you. It also tells you that the government doesnt regard human lives as valuable as their own agenda. Iraq isnt so lucky in the positives...but then again they never were when you look at their history.

2007-02-25 11:39:29 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 2 2

U.S. and iraq positive si know of so far..

well we helped rid them off sadam hwo was a dictator and we freed the people a lot more then they were!

We are helping them restore democracy. we are taking out terrorist and insurgents hwo screw it up for them over there.

We are making them self sufficiant.

Were reducing threats on our country to.

2007-02-25 11:35:45 · answer #6 · answered by Aaron T 2 · 2 1

How about we are increasing there basic living conditions.
More schools for kids.
Womens rights.
Advancment of technology.
Increased oil production.
Increased jobs.

2007-02-25 18:37:50 · answer #7 · answered by DemoDicky 6 · 0 0

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