I read a article about Rescues importing dogs so they can stay open?

Question

do you believe this to be true? Isnt it like firemen starting fires?
no hating just answer the question and tell me what you think...

"Shelters" are IMPORTING DOGS from FOREIGN COUNTRIES. It is an
established fact. We have posted major news sources, the AKC and major AR sources.
There are hundreds of sources. Google it yourself. It cannot be denied.
Notice that the "shelter" intakes are down 70% to 90%.

What does this mean:

1. "Shelters" don't want to loose their "adoption" price.
2. They don't have enough dogs. Overpopulation is a lie.
3. They are willing to INCREASE the population of dogs.
4. They are unconcerned about bringing in diseases.

There are hundreds of sources that proove so-called "shelters" are
IMPORTING DOGS from FOREIGN COUNTRIES. Here are a few.
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"Today, nationwide, studies show that the future is now. Since
peaking about 30 years ago, shelter intakes and euthanasias for dogs
have decreased by 70-90 percent or more in most US cities,
particularly those on the east and west coasts....Some are importing
stray dogs across state lines and from foreign countries to maintain
an inventory of adoptable dogs. Other shelters are misapplying no-kill
shelter principles by adopting out seriously ill and bad-tempered
dogs." Here's the source:
http://www.mofed.org/Redefining.html This is from NAIA (National
Animal Interest Alliance The mission of NAIA is to promote the welfare
of animals, to strengthen the human-animal bond and safeguard the
rights of responsible animal
owners.http://www.naiaonline.org/articles/archives/redefining.htm
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"Critics say many shelters have solved the stray problem in their own
area – but rather than shut down, they become de facto pet
stores...Animal shelters in the USA are casting a wide net – from
Puerto Rico to as far as Taiwan – to fill kennels,...
Some charge more than $200 per adoption for IMPORTED dogs."
http://enews.tufts.edu/stories/020603FillingEmptyPounds.htm
This is from TUFTS e-news
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In the past 7 years, Puerto Rico alone has sent 14,000 strays to the
U.S. for adoption.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2003-01-30-dogs-usat_x.htm
This is from USA Today, a major news source.

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More animal shelters trade responsible conduct for media limelight by
importing foreign strays for adoption
dogs http://www.naiatrust.org/resources/foreign_strays.htm
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. They ensure a sufficient supply of adoptable dogs by importing them
from foreign countries. http://www.toybreeds.com/animalshelters.htm
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THE MYTH OF OVER POPULATION IN REGARD TO SHELTER
ANIMALS http://www.ncraoa.com/articles/canine/OverPopulationMyth.html
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The answer for some shelters with empty runs has not been to contact
shelters in their own regions or in other areas of the continental US,
but to institute programs of importation from other countries and
territories.
http://www.naiaonline.org/body/articles/archives/humane_insane.htm
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Dr. Clifford McGinnis, New Hampshire's state veterinarian. He says he
was infuriated when he learned that shelters in his state were
bringing in dogs not only from Southern states, but also from Puerto
Rico and other countries.
http://lists.envirolink.org/pipermail/ar-news/Week-of-Mon-20040223/019975.html
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Rep. Kahn has introduced H3650 to prohibit public and private shelters from importing dogs from any other country, United States territory, Hawaii or Alaska. Shelters must also forward the name, address and drivers license number or other official state identification number of the person providing the cat or dog to the Commissioner of Public Health. H3650 has been assigned to the Joint Committee on Public Health and is supported by the Massachusetts Federation of Dog Clubs.
http://www.akc.org/enewsletter/taking_command/2005/june/around_nation.cfm

please ead the whole thing usa today even wrote about it....

wow I never looked at from that point of veiw thank you for the great answers

wow you would think India would have it under control...

Answer 1

Even if they are importing dogs, aren't they still staying true to their main objective---finding homes for homeless pets. I don't know of any shelters importing from foreign countries, but I have heard of them getting dogs from other shelters to help the overpopulation problems in other areas. Sorry, I just don't think it's wrong. They are still serving their purpose of supplying people in need of pets with pets in need of people.

Answer 2

This is absolutely 100% T-R-U-E

The North Shore animal League has been advertising how they have been importing dogs every spring for the rush on wanted small dogs for YEARS! And to top it off because California has been so hard on residents who breed a litter they are low on puppies. Smugglers are bringing them over the boarder from MEXICO!
The Animal Rights movement is a Vegan movement that wants NO pets because pets eat meat and they are telling the US a bunch of lies and taking your money and the biggest one HSUS does not even have a shelter. Meanwhile PETA another Vegan organization kills puppies and kittens for no reason and dumps them in a privately owned supermarket dumpster without even bringing them to their shelter! And their shelter has the highest euthanasia rate in the country because PETA says better dead than Fed. Why because pets eat other animals that's why... Let them win and believe them and kiss hamburgers and milk goodbye along with all pets.

The United States has no business bringing in stray dogs from other countries while trying to stop people in this country from seeking to own a dog of their choice. Further, it has been documented that Rabies and other diseases have been brought in through shelters, and even further than that it has been documented that shelters over seas are literally breeding puppies to be brought into the US shelters! What is wrong with s dog born in America and why should people be able to own a dog of their choosing when those are the dogs that are wanted most and don't end up being abandoned? I am real sorry that you want to keep your shelter job, but what you are saying bellow (Spotted) makes no sense and is bad for the US economy.

Answer 3

Hey Spotted,

I work with India natives. They are here to help set up, and get our new facility going. I work for an India based company. There's a first, India outsourced to the U.S. not the other way around.

Anyway, you should see their faces when I say I have dogs. The ones who have been here awhile are getting used to it, but they all generally have the same reaction at first. The OMG You have what? Don't they have diseases? Are they mean? Aren't you scared of them?

One of them I became good friends with and invited to my home, didn't want to come because he was afraid of my large dogs. He owns a small breed dog back home in India, but was very afraid of anything much larger than a toy poodle.

Their reaction was suprising, but even more suprising was the reaction when they heard that I do rescue, and that one of my dogs came "from the street". One of my labs was found skinny, and wandering, and I brought him home. Unfortunately no one ever claimed the big 100 pound baby. But my colleagues from India were just amazed that he had no diseases, and that I wasn't bitten or something.

I told them I think we have a little better vaccination, and care for our dogs over here, and that things like rabies, while worried about, don't instill fear as they do in other countries, because we do have very decent control over it.

Anyway (I can be long winded) what you say about dogs in India is absolutely true.

Answer 4

First of all...there are NO shortage of dogs in this country...maybe state by state, but the country in general..no.

I work for a dog rescue org. in washington state, and we have so many (purebred) dogs that we often have to turn dogs away..i know of several rescue orgs. that have had to turn down good dogs becuase they don't have the room.

Also, have you considered the lives dogs in foreign countries lead. In Mexico and India alone there are so many loose dogs and they are hated and despised, beaten, shot abused and starved. I knew a person in india that owned a pet dog and was crying becuase dogs are so hated there (because they run loose and get into garbage cans, and have no one to love them) people would throw things at her dog and taunt it and hit it over the fence.
If we have finally gotten so intelligent and had our dogs spayed and neutered to the point that we can go to other countries and save their dogs (which I know for the most part isn't true) then good for us!!
I live in the country, and I see unwanted litters born every day, dogs running loose in the roads every day (sometimes lying dead in the roads)...I suggest that someone in the media got ahold of some facts that were doctored to make them inflamatory, and blew it all out of proportion.

Answer 5

The animal shelters we have here in Canada get dogs from the US all the time to put up for adoption.A recent incident,our humane society went to Wisconsin to pick up 15 dogs who were going to be gassed to death because the breeder didnt like the way their tails were shaped.So the rescue shelters down there must be somewhat over populated if these dogs were going to be killed over a bad tail.

Answer 6

i dunno about shelters but i lived in between two countires for a while and brought dogs back with me to the US three or four times, for the simple fact that they could be adopted here

i brought a few purebreds ifound wandering and found them homes here when i know they woudl have a life filled with shear starvation and neglect.

as for shelters being overpopulated i find that hard to believe that they would import dogs for LACK of abandoned dogs

i have done purebred rescue for ten years now and i never had a time where i went "you know i dont have enough on my plate" so i think if this is true its about for profit shelters not the non profit shelters

and yes for all of you out there, THERE ARE LOTS OF FOR PROFIT shelters who are making things more difficult for people who do it because they love dogs

Answer 7

No that is sooo stupid to start a rumor like that well why would they do that when there are soooo many homless dogs on the street in the USA?????

Answer 8

I agree Happy Camper! Read this:

"Animal Rights and White Elephants"

Interesting concept isn't it? "Don't think of a White Elephant"

Now that you have read it are you envisioning a white elephant in your mind? How about a large gray one? If I tell you that the devil is the doughnut do you think that you might want to go out and get a doughnut? Will you be tempted? I bet Dunkin Doughnuts gets at least a few more visits this week considering that there are over 2000 people on this list. (Some of which I hope are reading today.)

Back in the 80's a Vegan commented that boycotts don't work by saying "Don't think of a White Elephant" in response to the oncoming Burger King boycott. A similar name can be found as the title of a political book called "Don't think of an Elephant". In both instances the theory that man thinks in pictorial images is utilized as a marketing tool and such images or suggestions guide thought processes. Cognitive linguists study these things and it was one such Vegan cognitive linguist who said; "Don't Think of a White Elephant" to the Vegans discussing boycotting Burger King back in the 80's. In effect he was saying boycotts don't work people will hear about the boycott and want a Burger King hamburger and in effect he was more or less correct although they did get Burger King to stop selling veal.

Now supposing I simply say "Animal Rights" An objector might respond by thinking or saying; "animals don't have rights." Which truthfully sounds rather politically incorrect to think, let alone verbalize. I agree though that animals do not necessarily have rights. However I am an animal and I supposedly do have rights. Further, if I were an ordinary non involved member of the general population I would envision an animal. Any animal that comes to mind. The last animal I saw perhaps; a dog, a squirrel, a cow or a sheep in an ad. I think of their cute little faces because being an average member of the public I don't necessarily think of squirrels as vermin that are potentially destructive. I don't think of shooting at a squirrel to rid my attic of them, rather I think of a squirrel with the same warm and fuzzy feelings that make squirrel shaped stuffed animals marketable.

So now let's put the picture of my animal (or yours) together with the word "rights." A very sellable ideal animal rights. The more we say Animal Rights the more we sell it for the Vegan ideologists which are behind it. In other words, lets take the Vegan's advice, he said "Don't think of a White Elephant" Just like saying "the devil is the doughnut" sells doughnuts saying the Devil is "animal Rights sells the AR agenda. Vegans use animal rights to sell Veganism, not the other way around. People don't take forced personal change lightly. Warm fuzzy seemingly altruistic ideals might be accepted but forced Veganism?

Now let's think about the word vegetarian. Vegetarian is rather mild, it actually has a nice soft appeal to it as in non carnivorous animals. Those animals are not threatening. I once had a salesman in my driveway who had never seen a deer. He was afraid the deer around the house would attack him. Of course when I explained that deer do not eat animals and would have no reason to be interested in him he relaxed. Subconsciously we humans attach the word vegetarian to gentler beings. Mine is only one example of how we see that word.

Vegan is not a commonly spoken word, and it seems very misunderstood. I know what Veganism is because I have first hand experience with some of the hierarchy of the planned movement, not only of the Animal Rights agenda but in support of a Vegan movement in general from promoting the diet to absolutely no use of animal products, not even in the glues used to fasted rubber soles to nylon shoes. There is no doubt that those in this movement have been using every possible mind game they can to further their goal which is to eliminate man's symbiotic relationship with animal. Although some might argue that Vegans are not completely against man having a symbiotic relationship with all animals as Vegans might think it fine for insects to pollinate crops. However I have witnessed first hand such a debate in which two Vegans argued whether man's intervention, caused by planting an area concentrated with crops, was harmful to insects. Hmmm, I think. Man is by nature capable of farming and man is a natural element in the environment. Anything man does is natural including being a farmer or an omnivore.

I think George Carlin may have been onto something in "The Planet is Fine" when he said: "…The air and the water will recover, the earth will be renewed, and if it's true that plastic is not degradable, well, the planet will simply incorporate plastic into a new paradigm: the earth plus plastic. The earth doesn't share our prejudice towards plastic. Plastic came out of the earth. The earth probably sees plastic as just another one of its children. Could be the only reason the earth allowed us to be spawned from it in the first place. It wanted plastic for itself. Didn't know how to make it. Needed us. Could be the answer to our age-old egocentric philosophical question, "Why are we here?"

So now I just sit and ponder, is man's use of animals so harmful, or is it all those plastic shoes and belts?

Vegans will take the pet out of your bed and the meat off your plate while they fill the world with non biodegradable plastic. (lol, thank you George) Say VEGAN, not animal rights. It makes no difference what some individuals might think Vegan means right now. Just as the trade marks aspirin, cellophane, nylon, escalator and thermos, all started out as something less generic and now have morphed meanings, the word Vegan -which has already been linked to the real ideology by the Vegans themselves, must be exposed. It isn't fair for Vegans not to use their entire vision of the future when pushing only their warm and fuzzy AR sounding goals. Their vision will affect us all, animal lovers or not.

The phrase Animal Rights furthers their goal. The word Vegan would be very scary for them to hear coming from "Omnis". The word Vegan tells the listener you will have to eat their way, if you allow them to make meat overly expensive until it disappears. You will have no pets because pets eat meat. Eventually everything and everyone will become Vegan. That is their agenda. The term is Vegan.

Someone who used to be very anti AR (but unfortunately now sees it more important to collect AKC brownie points) once said AR to me. I had no idea what she was talking about at first, (this was several years ago). I had no idea!!! The minute she said they were Vegans (a minute after she said AR) I knew exactly what she was talking about. Well I have more exposure to Vegans than most people. That exposure makes me aware that having a Vegan write animal laws is like having the KKK write human rights laws.

Last week I spoke to a woman whose husband ran for a pretty high office in a large parent dog club. I mentioned the HSUS is a Vegan run organization and she said "No. it isn't" I said Wayne Pacelle is a Vegan and she said "No he isn't"

Wayne Pacelle has been "a Vegan for two decades."

http://www.satyamag.com/jun05/pacelle.html (P3L1)

He is very dedicated to the cause, "one generation and out" comes from somewhere. It comes from his Vegan indoctrination that's where. There is a Vegan writing law regarding your food and your pet. Educate your legislators, your public and yourselves as to what a Vegan is and what they believe. Identifying the complete meaning of being a Vegan is the first step to derailing their movement. No one is going to force any Vegans to eat meat. The result would simply be that we don't allow Vegans to force their ways upon the entire world.

Take their advice when it comes to marketing and cognitive linguistics, they have been advancing for years. The Vegans repeated: "Don't think of a White Elephant," and "The Devil is the Doughnut"

"Don't Think Animal Rights." say I, or "the devil is AR" Instead Say; "Vegan Agenda" and the devil is no domestic animals, no carnivorous pets, no animal protein or animal by products. The man said "one generation and out."

Expose the true agenda and beliefs.

Not Vegetarian, Say "Vegan Agenda". Mandating Veganism, by leaving the world with no other alternative. It is very different! Fascist Vegans who write laws to force Veganism onto the world one small step at a time. Fascist Vegans if you will, but Vegans nonetheless.