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Christ should have born on 1-1-1

If Christ was born on 25th December then, is it on BC or AD?
(doesnt it sounds awkward). Say 25th December 1 AD or 25th December on 1 BC.

Why 7 days after (or 358 days before?) the birth of christ was selected to mark a begining of new era?

Am I confusing?

2007-02-24 20:05:10 · 18 answers · asked by Tinku 2 in Arts & Humanities History

I am sorry. I have no intention to raise any doubt about the birth of christ or christianity.

I am sorry for hurting some though inadvertently.

To make it clear, my doubt is only about the calendar that we are using.

I expect the answers to be based on the calendar system and not christianity.

Some of the answers, though based on christianity, answered partly my question, I would like receive some answer purely based on the method our calendar system is made.

2007-02-26 20:16:07 · update #1

18 answers

No you are not confusing, maybe illiterate, or uneducated and silly, but not confusing. This was not a serious question, was it? You are making a joke?

2007-02-25 06:05:43 · answer #1 · answered by Jim R 4 · 0 2

Nobody knows when Christ was actually born. By looking at the gospels we can only guess that it definetly waw not in winter. When the Roman Empire became christian they changed merged a lot of holidays to appease the Pagans who worshiped the Sun. Because Pagans worshiped the Sun the Sabbath was changed to the already established weekly pagan holiday SUNday. Christmas was to be celebrated on the Winter Solstice in Rome (Dec 25th). A lot of other things about Christmas come from the Pagans. For instance the Christmas tree was originally a Pagan tradition of bringing into the house a tree that would stay green for some time. The Church merged christianty into the tradition with the hanging of ornaments, (apples to represent Adam and Eve).

Almost all the numbers that are important to us come form some sort of organic or astonomical origin. Holidays are usually centered around the Sun. The reason we have twelve months is because of the lunar cycles. The reason we use ten as our a base for a number system is because we have ten fingers. Before we had electricity and grocery stores the sun and farming were everything.

2007-02-25 04:28:36 · answer #2 · answered by ? 2 · 0 0

obelix is 100% correct.

When figuring our current calandar, the dude miscalculated and was about 3 or 4 years off.

Also, Germanic (Pagan, meaning Earth worshiping) people celebrated the winter solstice in late December. They worshiped the evergreen tree because it was the only thing that could stay green through the harsh winters (our first Christmas trees). Even after people started converting to Christianity, they continued to celebrate the traditional holiday around the winter solstice. The Christians basically said "If you can't beat 'em, join 'em!" They tried to change the winter solstice celebration into the celebration of Christ's birth. It worked quite well. Yet even into the 1600s and 1700s in Europe, Christmas was simply a reason to party and get drunk (think Marti Gras). The Puritains actually outlawed Christmas in Massachusettes because it was such a secular, drunken holiday.

2007-02-25 14:30:08 · answer #3 · answered by Jay G 3 · 0 0

No one knows when Christ was born, so they made "best guesses." Since Jesus might have been born at any time during the year, this would remain the same (in other words, we are not going to make "July" into "January"). They decided to mark that year since the day was not known.

Taking an educated guess, they chose a year and called it "1". Personally I wish they called it year 0 sometimes, but that does not matter.

"AD" does not mean "after Christ's birthday" it means "in the year of our Lord." We are in the "2,007 Year of Our Lord". Similarly "BC" does not mean "before Christ's birthDAY" it means "before Christ", in other words, 1BC is one year before the year Christ came (or rather it is supposed to be).

One theory, which I believe (because everything fits) is thatDecember 25 was chosen primarily to match up with Hanukkah which always starts on the 25th of Kislev, but the months do not match. Kislev always falls within December to some degree. Some claim that they wanted to replace a pagan holiday with a Christian one, but that does not explain why they picked that holiday.

Regardless, the reason for it is Christ's birth.

The 7/358 days is meaningless. I have heard theories, none of which makes sense. Christ's circumcision, in which He also received His name "Jesus" was 8 days later, and Hanukkah lasts 8 days.

By the way, December 25 was said to have been found in the census reports in Bethlehem as the day that Joseph registered, however, these documents no longer exist, so it cannot be validated.

Again, the bottom line is that someone wanted to celebrate Christ's birthday, and they did their best to pinpoint it and make it a holiday before the Lord.

In my opinion, the date of the first Advent remains unknown because the date of the second Advent is unknown. Who knows, the dates (time of year) might be the same. But only God knows the date (it will be on God's calendar, not the Jewish or our calendar).

One should celebrate December 25 or Christmas as Christ's birthday only in spirit, and in truth, with love of God for the gift He gave to us, otherwise it is meaningless. What matters is the heart, NOT the date.

This is the only day that we know of in which heaven celebrated as a holy day.
Luke 2:11 For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord.
12 And this shall be a sign unto you; Ye shall find the babe wrapped in swaddling clothes, lying in a manger.
13 And suddenly there was with the angel a multitude of the heavenly host praising God, and saying,
14 Glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace, good will toward men.

2007-02-25 04:29:45 · answer #4 · answered by Shawn D 3 · 0 1

Jesus wasn't born on December 25th. This date was the final day of the Saturnalia, the major festival of ancient Rome. On this day, families got together, made sacrifices, ate a huge lunch, swapped gifts, and generally had a good family day together. Sound familiar?

When Christianity was adopted as the state religion of Rome in the early 300's AD, they kept the Saturnalia, changed its name to Christ's Mass, and kept all the original ancient Roman traditions. It made the transition from Pagan to Christian easier for the population.

2007-02-25 08:33:28 · answer #5 · answered by alienaviator 4 · 0 0

Even the history teacher who sees himself in the mirror every day is wrong.

The church did not set the date until the 4th century. The date was chosen because of the persecutions and the need of the various mystery religions (Christianity among them) to combine to make it more difficult for the Romans to persecute them. It is believed by most people that the Romans only persecuted the Christians, but they persecuted the followers of Mithra (whose birthday was stated as being December 25), Mani, the Isis/Osiris Cult, the Mother Earth Cult and a variety of others. The combination of these mystery religions under the veil of Christianity brought about the need to barter some things off and one of the things that was agreed on to get the followers of Mithra to join into the alliance was the acceptance of the birthday of Mithra as the birthday of Christ.

You are welcome to check me out on this.

2007-02-25 15:00:56 · answer #6 · answered by Polyhistor 7 · 0 0

Christ wasn't actually born on December 25th. No one know the actual date of his birth, we only know what year he was born.

Also, the birth of Christ wouldn't have started a new year back then, because no one knew who he was yet. They already had a calendar system in place, and the year he was born is "The year of the Lord", or AD.

2007-02-25 04:12:30 · answer #7 · answered by Shawn L 2 · 0 1

December 25th in not the birth date of Christ, it's just the day that was chosen to celebrate his birth.

2007-02-25 04:19:12 · answer #8 · answered by ? 2 · 0 0

The 25 is just the date we celebrate his birth day it is not the actual day. They do know the histroy events around his brith because the Roman record as well as bibical gospels. It was a few years after that we started counting the years. But he must of made an impacted while he was on earth for them to slit time by his birth.

2007-02-25 04:13:26 · answer #9 · answered by jobees 6 · 0 1

December 25th is just a guess. Some people think he was born somrtime in september because it was too cold in December and it has something to do with the plants and crops and stuff like that. I dont think we will ever know the exact date. Glad I could help.

2007-02-25 12:22:53 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

Most evidence indicates that Jesus, if he existed, was born around 4BC. His birth was usually celebrated in the spring. I expect that only after the Germanic peoples were Christianized did the date of celebration change to the Winter Solstice, which we mark as 25 December.

2007-02-25 04:13:48 · answer #11 · answered by obelix 6 · 1 1

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