If one is brought up to believe something is true, and this truth is instilled in them, but this something is not actually true, but this person does not know that, and then this person goes and tells others this something is true, are they lying? Why or why not? What other questions come up with this? Is it an unanswerable question? What are your opinions?
2007-02-24 10:41:59 · 15 answers · asked by Kiara 5 in Arts & Humanities ➔ Philosophy
Is it a lie in another's perspective (from those who know it is untrue?)
2007-02-24 10:46:35 · update #1
Wow...interesting question......
All our lives we are filled with facts that are presumed to be true. As we grow to adulthood or older, we are better able to think about what we have learned and draw conclusions on whether or not these truths are still believable.
To say that what we believed before was a falsehood isn't a lie. It is a truth we believed and now have found new truths.
BUT...if we STILL believe something after we have found out it wasn't true, then you possibly could be lying. The truth from before was instilled so deeply, we refuse to believe it could EVER be proven false. In this case...it's hard to say whether or not someone is lying based on past truths...or non acceptance of new truth.
Does that answer your question?
2007-02-24 11:01:53 · answer #1 · answered by phillyvic 4 · 2⤊ 0⤋
I believe what many said, that a lie must be intentional~that is~something like, "I saw so & so steal that money!" when they know it not to be the truth. Yet phyllyvic's four words: "..have found new truths" seems to get into further depth, as we are always "discovering" new truths. On an abstract, or philosophical level, there is no aboslute truth. & that's why we find new truths that fit our perceptions as we go along. In your question, assuming "untruths" were instilled in you, no you weren't "lying."
2007-02-24 13:02:35 · answer #2 · answered by Valac Gypsy 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
If you believe something that is thought to be false by someone else, its true to you but is a lie, delusion or misunderstanding to someone else depending on how charitable they want to be.
I think a lie is when you know/believe something to be true yet claim it isn't - its intentionally acting to deceive. If the act to deceive isn't intentional, its not a lie.
"Did you pocket my lighter?"
"No"
When the lighter is found in your pocket, the asker could conclude you lied, that you are delusional about putting it in your pocket or simply thought it was your lighter.
You, when answering the question either believed that you really didn't pocket the lighter or that you really did think it was your lighter - as far as you are concerned, you were telling the truth - you were just wrong. Unless you knew it was their lighter and that you had pocketed it - then you told a lie.
2007-02-24 17:57:14 · answer #3 · answered by Justin 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Lying implies that you are intentionally saying the opposite of what you believe to be true.
In fact, all of our thoughts and words are simply models or symbols of "reality". These models are always incorrect and faulty. If you are not lying, you are trying to convey a model of reality that you hope will be predictive and otherwise valuable.
We can only know reality as an abstract concept, because of the limitations our ability to model the world.
In 1940, Albert Einstein stated:
"Science is the attempt to make the chaotic diversity of our sense-experience correspond to a logically uniform system of thought. In this system single experiences must be correlated with the theoretic structure in such a way that the resulting coordination is unique and convincing. "
2007-02-24 12:37:04 · answer #4 · answered by Skeptic 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
It turned right into a plane... i have considered all the 911 conspiracy video's and extremely few of the "info" they grant you with are genuine maximum are in simple terms deceptive. it really is atypical that a construction as huge and secured because the pentagon don't have extra photos of it notwithstanding it turned right into a plane. the individuals who boarded that flight not at all lower back. there have been a great number of eye-witnesses, and there is documented info that the plane became flying interior the no-fly zone above the pentagon for like 20 min earlier it went down so if it turned right into a missile how'd they make the plane disappear. Plus look lower back on the photos they tutor you maximum do not tutor the exterior of the construction bear in thoughts the pentagon has quite a few layers of walls and alot of the photos tutor the interior view which the wings of the plane likely don't have made it into because the wall were lately bolstered..
2016-12-04 21:52:48 · answer #5 · answered by hertling 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Are we talking religion, or civil rights, or law, or just some sill fact that's been handed down in your family for years? It's hard to give a good answer with so little to go on, and what you get may be about as useful as the information you gave us.
Unless you violate a law somehow by acting on this erroneous bit of information, I'd say it's just a mistake. If your parents told you that all elves have pointed ears, and their parents told them that, and so on, and you told an elf that he's not an elf because his ears don't have points, that's just a mistake, and you can learn from it and grow from it.
If you spanked your kid so hard with a paddle that you drew blood, or broke bones, you're guilty of child abuse, no matter what your parents told you. Any rational person should know that such abuse isn't appropriate with a young child no matter what the circumstances.
2007-02-24 10:53:23 · answer #6 · answered by Ralfcoder 7 · 2⤊ 1⤋
Lying is knowing the truth and intentionally saying the opposite.
If you are brought up to believe a certain thing, and you repeat it, you repeat it knowing (or believing) it to be true.
To misrepresent it would be lying,
If you were brought to believe something that was later proven wrong, the most someone was could claim is that you were telling them something that was wrong, but they couldn't claim that you weren't lying, because that would require an intentional act to deceive.
2007-02-24 10:52:20 · answer #7 · answered by T J 6 · 2⤊ 0⤋
No, it is not a lie. Webster's defines a lie as "a false statement PURPOSELY put forward as truth; something MEANT to deceive". Intent is the key. Even in the eyes of the law. If I intended to kill, it's murder. No intent: manslaughter.
Also, people have different truths. Jesus Christ as the son of God is a common "truth" that many people operate under - but not the majority of people. Does that make Jesus a lie (or Buddha, or Allah, or Brahma)?
2007-02-24 11:00:49 · answer #8 · answered by MommaAng 2 · 3⤊ 0⤋
No telling someone something that you believe to be true is never a lie.
You might think of it as a mistake but the nature of a lie requires purposeful deception.
Love and blessings Don
2007-02-24 12:45:28 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
If you were brought up to believe in something, and you repeat those beliefs to another, thinking they are true, you are not lying. You were misguided..that's not your fault. Changing your beliefs as you go through life is called "growing", mentally and spiritually, something you need to do as well as growing psycially.
2007-02-24 10:49:43 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 1⤋