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I want to have a small salt water tank. I know they are dificult to handle but I really want to try. I need to know about how much the sand and equipment and fish will cost me.

2007-02-24 06:59:20 · 8 answers · asked by Kitty 2 in Pets Fish

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Congratulations! At least you are starting on the right foot. Figuring out what you will need to get started. First and I would like to stress this one word, PATIENCE.
Honestly, 10 gal is too small especiall for a beginner. 30 is the minimum
For the tank, sometimes you can find them in the paper, or green sheet. Walmart has a nice 50 gal w/stand and lights and hood for $150.

First step for your tank is figuring out where you are going to put it. Remember with a salt water tank, you are going to have to leave room behind the tank for access, filters etc. About 8-12 inches. (This will also help to protect walls from salt evaporation. I'll explain later) Once you have that, we are ready to start.

Do you have a local fish store to trust? One that relies on good fish keeping and good advice to stay in business. Find one even if you have to drive a few miles out of your way. They can be a large asset when it comes to fish.

Do you have any ideas on what you might want to keep? Or is this a "we'll start with a blank canvas and see where it goes?" thing?

To start, a regular hood, no special lights will suffice for now. (until you see if this is what you really want to advance to)

To start, you do not NEED a skimmer. They are prefered but, my 30 gallon has never had a skimmer or power heads and still doesn't. I hate to use the word cheap, just less expensive. And you can still have a healthy tank.

A rear whisper filter designed for a 75 gallon tank will suffice for now. This will run around $50 at walmart of all places. Your best bet is to shop around. You can if you choose to go with a back pack filter which come preequiped with a protein skimmer for around $150.00. This could save time and money later when upgrading.

For a beginner, I would suggest dolomite (Crushed coral) for the bottom of your tank (Easier to care for). If you are not going to be runninga protein skimmer, this will make cleaning much easier. You will also want to get a gravel siphon for cleaning (these can range from a couple of bucks to upwards of $50. You don't need anything fancy, just a siphon). A heater is a must $10-15), thermometer $1.95 In the tank only a floater of one that attaches doesn't matter. It should be placed the farthest from your heater as possible.) A hydrometer These can run from a few dollars and up. Just a floating hydrometer is fine. around $4.00. Some packages of salt you will purchase sometimes come with a hydrometer, so this may help. Instant Ocean makes a quality synthetic salt. ($22.00). (When you start moving up in the salt water I would suggest switching to Red Sea Salt.) Power heads are beneficial, but at this point not necessary. They can be added on at any time. Get a quality Dechlorinator. (DO NOT USE start right or stress coat in your marine tank) AquaNova + is a good dechlor and it also adds back trace minerals to the water. One or two 5 gallon buckets. $2.29 each at home depot.

Ok I think we are ready to start. Be sure your tank is clean. You can use a salt water mix to clean your tank. There is also an aquarium cleaner you can buy but for your tank, a mix of 1/2 cup of salt dissolved in a gallon of water will do. (no specifics here.) Clean the tank rinse and let's get started.

If you chose to use the dolomite you do not want to use more than will cover 1 1/2 - 2 inches across the bottom. (Sand will require the same) Use a kitchen sive and clean the gravel by rinsing it. Dump the gravel into the bucket and swish the heck out of it. Drain and rinse again.

(You will only do this if you are using dry dolomite. LIVE dolomite and live sand do not get rinsed)

Pour the gravel into the bottom of your tank. Doesn't need to be flattened yet since you are going to be dumping water into your tank and this is going to dislocate it anyway. Using your 5 gallon buckets, fill just about 4 gallons or 4 1/5 depending on how much you can lift. Add the required amount of Dechlor and then the salt. (Usually 1.5 pounds or 24 oz per 5 gallons, however I have never used that much to obtain a 1.022 gravity in my tank.) I start by adding a cup mixing to disolve (and I use warm tap water here) I will check the hydrometer to see how far off I am and either add more salt or more fresh water. Since you are setting up your tank, obtaining an exact 1.022 is not that important right now, getting close is. Continue dissolving salt and new water until your tank is about 3-4 inches from the top. Attach your filter (be sure it is rinsed well as well as the filters) if you choose to use a rear filter. Even so a back pack filter also needs rinsed. Now we have water movement.

I did not mention anything about live rock or any other items for your tank yet. At this stage since you REALLY should not try to cycle your salt water this early with live rock. If you only knew what things grow on and in the rock, don't waste your money now. It really isn't needed. Now that your tank is running. Check the water with the hydrometer. you should be pretty close to your 1.022 range. Slightly higher or lower isn't going to matter. Turn your heater on and set it for around 78. Finish topping off your tank with salt mixed water. Don't forget to add dechlor to every bucket. Congratulations, your tank is now set up. Now comes the waiting. And you will wait. To aid in the tanks cycling, but does not replace cycling, take a few pieces of raw fish or shrimp, chop them up and toss them intothe tank. This will help the bacteria establish more quickly leading to a healther tank later. Get a notebook. Markdown the day you set your tank up and what you did and what you used. Do this with water changes and tests. This way you have a record of what was done.

Let it run. Continue to run the lights during the day and off at night. After about a week, check your water quality. I would suggest a really good test kit, and strips. I use the strips (I call them dummy strips since they are very broad ranged and are not accurate enough for fishkeeping) to initially test. Then I compair them with what I get from my water tests. I mark the results down in my note book with the day. If you don't trust yourself enough to read the water, take it to your LFS. They will do it for you. Your tank will have to run a minimum of 6 weeks with nothing in it. Do not try to rush this process. Salt water is not the same as fresh water. Shrimp, anemone or even fish are less tolorent of water conditions.

If you really MUST have something swimming around, after 3 weeks, you can buy a black mollie or a couple of guppies. They will live fine in your tank at this time. They are the only fish to attempt. Placing damsels would kill the damsels since they are not the same kind of fish mollies and guppies are. You really do not need to do any water changes during the break in time. If you are showing spiking of nitrates, you may want to do a 20% water change. After your 6 week break in period, test your water. If all the parmiters are ok, you can begin with the lower end fish. Damsels. DO NOT TRY to place triggers or tangs or puffers into your tank. The bacteria is present, but not established and it will kill these fish. If your damsels are doing fine in two weeks, you can start adding live rock to build up your substraight. You can buy as little as pound or ten pounds. You can buy dead corals, fake corals, or whatever you want to decorate your tank. Your tank will need to sit for a minimum of 6 months before you can attempt the higher end fish.

I test my tanks every three days. I only do a water change of 25% once every three to four weeks. My tanks are established however and are pretty much on their own.

A few rules of thumb when dealing with salt fish. Keep your hands out! The more your hands remain out of the tank, the better your fish will be.

DO not spray anything in the room your tank is in.

Now you can start thinking about breeding brine shrimp, and what other fish you are interested in getting. Remember to do your research, since fish require different lighting, water paramiters and are or are not compatable with reef, invertabreas etc.

Good luck. If you have any additional question feel free to email me.

2007-02-24 13:49:50 · answer #1 · answered by danielle Z 7 · 0 0

A 10 gal saltwater tank is too small for anything.
1 fish, a couple of snails, and a couple of hermit crabs thats about it.
When it comes to saltwater, the more water you have the easier it is to take care of.(MY 20years experiance)
My wife wants a snall tank for seahorses (i don't know why, but)
30 gal is the smallest that I will go and it will only hold 4 or 5 of them with live sand and live rock.
TO MAKE IT A LITTLE MORE INTERESTING TO WATCH
We will also add a few snails, hermit crabs(they're funny to watch), a live soft coral or 2,
and maybe a pistol shrimp and gobie (They live together).
With the live rock and sand, snails and crabs, you will only have to purchase a protein skimmer to complete your filter system.
you will also need 3 to 4 watts per gal for lights if you add any coral.
you will also need 2 small powerheads to move the water in different directions.
A heater...
There are some companys that make NANO tanks for saltwater that come with just about everything except the sand, salt, and live rock.
Check out www.liveaquaria.com click on the supplies tab along the top and then click on aquariums and furniture.
this is also a realy good sight to check out livestock and supplies for fresh and saltwater and it explains what conditions that your livestock needs to survive.
Good Luck and Welcome To Saltwater
If you are like me and millions of others, YOU WILL NEVER GO BACK TO FRESH.LOL

2007-02-24 10:38:19 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

People who attempt nano reefs (saltwater small reefs) are generally VERY experienced. It takes a ton of work to maintain, and a ton of knowledge and experience, whih it doesn't sound like you have. Try a freshwater 20 gallon. There are many colorful beautiful freshwater fish, such as dwarf gouramis, and you can get fake coral and have it set up to "look" like saltwater. You will be preparing yourself for saltwate in the future. This is not something you want to just jump into. Beginners have trouble enough with freshwater, and saltwater is much much much more difficult. If you want to waste you money, go ahead. A 10 gallon saltwater will cost 300-500 dollars, nto including fish, and much more money monthly to maintain. You can get a freshwater tank for half that price, and minimal cost to maintain.

And we're not talking about "difficult to maintain" here. We're talking about nearly impossible for someone new to the hobby. You could probably start out new with a much larger tank, but trying to start a small saltwater tank is just asking to be disappointed. You will waste so much money trying to "fix" things. Saltwater fish are usually a lot less resiliant than freshwater, so you really have no room for error. Add in a small tank, and well, one small mistake and all your fish die, you're out 100-200 dollars in starting up again, figuring out what you did wrong, etc. So I think if you want to try this 10 gallon saltwater thing, and you have 1000 dollars to totally blow, and you enjoy killing fish, go for it!

2007-02-24 07:10:40 · answer #3 · answered by TD311 2 · 0 1

Well, i have 2 fish tanks, I ha ve one 10 gallon goldfish tank ,and I have a 30 Gallon Tropical Fish Tank. The Tank itself would turn out to be 100 dollars. But if you want a saltwater tank, you will have to pay almost quadruple for Fish. You have to "Buy" the salts for the water.

2007-02-24 07:10:03 · answer #4 · answered by Jonas A 4 · 0 3

alot start with fresh water and then see what happens if anything you have 2 tanks and you got to remeber salt water fish cost $20 and up good luck

2007-02-24 07:07:33 · answer #5 · answered by steve p 1 · 0 1

10 gallons? Go bigger, that's a tiny tank esp. for salt water.

2007-02-28 02:10:41 · answer #6 · answered by Sunday P 5 · 0 0

all together about $50 minimum. Tank is about $30, food+gravel is about $5 starting out, and fish should be about $15 total. If you add medicine, add $10 more.

2007-02-24 08:54:48 · answer #7 · answered by LightningKnex 2 · 0 2

Why not go to www.google.com? They'll tell you everything you need to know about salt water tanks!!!!

2007-02-24 07:06:13 · answer #8 · answered by beautiful_baylee_xoxo 1 · 1 3

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