Feminists and equality??

Question

Does the feminist movement really stand for equality? It seems that if feminists cared for men as much as women, then it would be called humanism, or equalism, or something?

Are there any men's rights/issues that feminists have genuinely campaigned for in the past? I've never seen any myself. However, I, as a male (not a masculist) have argued for female abortion rights, among other things. I've never seen a feminist who cares about men, never. and I've studied politics for two years. Please enlighten me.

Answer 1

Feminists and equality: When I organized and marched in take back the night marches, I welcomed all people to attend, from any way of life (churches, unions, college groups, political groups), to march for all people who had been attacked or raped-we were marching for everyone to feel safe to walk at night. We had male and female speakers, and if we could find a male survivor to speak, we welcomed them to tell their story. Yes, we focused on women, that was the majority of rape victims, and the people who were willing to speak and and work in the rape crisis lines and rape prevention centers were women. I know groups that worked with victims were always looking for men to work with male survivors...so they had someone who could understand their unique issues and concerns.

So what women's rights issues have you campaigned for? or better still, what men's rights issues have you campaigned for? You've "argued" for female abortion rights, but did you "do" anything about it? You've studied politics for two years, I"ve studied and participated in politics for 30 years...and I've marched against the Klan, I've attended and organized rallies and marches and conferences for union workers, gay and lesbian rights, pro-choice access, etc. Most of the women I worked with were married and their husbands and parents and families attended and helped us with many of the events. Maybe you need to study more, but also get involved with politics, instead of making assumptions about something you've never involved yourself in.

Answer 2

So join the American Humanist Association at
http://www.americanhumanist.org/humanism/definitions.htm

'Ive never seen a feminist who cares about men, never. and I've studied politics for two years'.

I doubt that this is true. However, why don't you study Social Work? The people who gravitate towards politics are not exactly the selfless, benevolent types. Politics remains dominated by white males; trying looking in the RIGHT places.

Answer 3

First, I would like to mention that women have had to climb a mountain to get the rights we have today. Can you accept this fact? If so, then you can empathize with the feminst movements of the past. Thank you for your support. Do you honestly think men needed a movement? They had one all along!!!

Does there need to be a men's movement? Sure! A movement of self discovery - you don't have to do all the work anymore because women are capable too - thanks to the movements of the past. Men SHOULD get in touch with their "other" side - the one that I know exists - the one that has feelings and support - there needs to be a male culture that revolves around things that do not include beer, stippers and planning wars. I think it's great that in the past 10 years baby changing stations have been installed in men's bathrooms! Women have met men and have become equal . . .do the same!

Answer 4

Early feminists campaigned against slavery which involved both sexes. Margaret Sanger advocated for birth control which benefited both sexes. Eco feminism deals with preserving the world and the environment which both genders enjoy. Third wave feminism is looking for equality not only for gender, but also religion, disabilities, age, race, etc. If this doesn't work in the favour of men in these spheres I don't know what else would.

Answer 5

waswisgirl
Funny you should mention the "take Back the Night" marches... when I was a young and naive lad I went out to march with the 'protestors' and was told by the organizer to "go back to the Student Union Building and make sandwiches with the rest of the ***** men". Verbatum. Charming lady, wot? Part of the reason why I now believe that feminism... at least the brand of feminism that's setting policy... has absolutely no interest in equality.

Answer 6

I am not a feminist and will not become one. I was taught that feminist want to do what a man does while still being a female. They do not care about men or their rights, they want to show they are capable of a mans job and will take it if they qualify. Feminist are out for themselves, not men.

Answer 7

Yea, that's for sure; feminists are only out for themselves. Like Marxists they believe that through destroying [literally] the bourguese [basically those who've cash] that then something good will come out of the destruction..... I think that a small kid from our culture could have told the idiot that he's just a violent numbskull. but, his theories lived and feminism is just another branch of socialism that also believe that destruction is the way forward.


I also campaigned for 'women's rights', but then I started to think about things. Let's just think about it.- It has been noted that women always campaigned for, 'womens' rights'; where-as men campaign for fathers' rights etc. Men campaign for the right to love and protect. It was the same with the vote, co-incidentally; men demanded the vote because their families were starving*. [The Universal Suffrage Movement [men started it btw]] It wasn't the same with women; they campaigned for selfish reasons. Like a woman's, 'right' to abort- literally kill- unborn children expressly against the wishes of the loving-father. Says it all.

*Note: even that act of love- campaigning for the right to feed one's family- has been used, by the family-and-male-haters, to abuse men.

With kind regards

Answer 8

This is typical of any historically oppressed group. There are few criticisms that I've seen about feminism that don't carry at least a fair amount of viability, including yours. I think they would argue that men's rights are taken care of or, worse yet, that men already have it better in enough ways, that their rights aren't of concern. Feminism needs a serious revamping.

Answer 9

well there is a problem with the word 'equality" here.

modern feminists want to be equated with men...which they can't be because men and women are not the same, and thus not equal....

they are equal in dignity and value...but that's all....

these women want to be like men...until its time to get down and dirty....

whose gonna kill that mouse that's loose in the house..know what i mean???

Answer 10

NOW (Natl. Organization of Women) is proposing legislation to give men more paternity leave (they are lobbying for more maternity/paternity leave for men AND women). And, believe it or not (and I CAN prove it) the wording of the VAWA is gender neutral, so it protects women AND men, it's the police and courts that are still biased.