is it important to have a strong economy or strong social system?

Question

powerful countries have booming economies. but what matters in the long run - a strong economy(as in us, uk,china) or a strong social system (as in sweden)

Answer 1

A few months ago on a trip to Mumbai, I made it a point to visit Dalal St. There I see this huge structure, the Bombay Stock Exchange. After a short gape, looking up, I turned down to take a look around the street. There I see, people moving about in a way identical to what's a common sight in a vegetable market (No, not Reliance Fresh, but the typical "sabzi mandi"). New Fund Offer (NFO) forms are sold on wheelers, just the way the "sabzi wala" goes around in your colony selling veggies.

Okay. Talking business...An entity with booming economy needn't have a strong social system and vice-versa. Sure 80% of all the electronic goods you possess, I bet, are either made in China or Taiwan (SAR). But do you have any idea of what the Chinese social structure is like? It's utter chaos! People have a bad standard of living, their roads and urban administration is no better than what it is in India, add to it the fact that China has a Communist administration. The "Made in China" stuff we see around us is made by ordinary Chinese people who work for people who've exploited the loopholes of Chinese administration to themselves become rich. So the section of Chinese society that is into manufacturing is rich and in this is way accelerates its economy and gives us the impression of China being rich. True, China is rich, but you somehow don't see signs of richness in everyone's face. China and India infamously top the World Bank surveyors' lists of being most corrupted. Same as in India. Mumbai is an amazing city when just hundred kilometers away, farmers are fighting for their lands forcibly being snatched by the Government and "Land Sharks". In one word, India is rich but only when you see Mumbai, Delhi etc and wear a blindfold everywhere else you go.

For countries like ours to develop a "Strong Social System" is like getting lost in Sahara with a sweater on. It simply is impossible. With reservations, Godhra, etc., we're unable to maintain the sanctity of being secular forget "Strong Soc.....crap"

We've entered an era of time where nations have begun competing in business just as how Marwadi cloth merchants do with their shops right beside each others'. This is a war, only we don't have causalities. We have people dying though. People have forgotten everything: environment, exploitation of labor, morality etc.. "Make more, sell more, earn more, buy more." That sadly is the dogma we live in.

Now that you've mentioned Sweden, let me pour bile. Sweden is an elder population meaning that there are more people above the age of 40 than those below it. Excessive "brain drain" to US and UK has left the Swedes with more people counting their days. Their population growth rate is just enough to balance the mortality:natality ratio. For the Swedish government to manage a social system is as easy as what managing a class of school children for a teacher is. And by the way, what advantage do you see the Swedes having over other EU nations like Germany and Switzerland which have open edge social structure (like the US)? "annda".

We could choose to be aggressive, like China or easy going like Sweden (or Bihar...Hee Hee). The call for the hour is aggression. Aggression in business, in whatever we do. It doesn't mean the kind of aggression that breaks the barriers of morality, but being able to give it our everything, to be able to deliver more than our capabilities, and let spirituality take over.

Yes Spirituality. You see, Indians are anthropomorphic. For every material thing is associated something spiritual:
Ramu Seth: "Toh bhai, bahut tarakki kar rahe ho?"
Shamu Seth: "Bas upar wale ki meherbani."
Where "Shamu" has really achieved something out of hard work. You don't see this in the Americans:
Journalist: "Mr. Gates, you've grown from 5.5% to 6.75....blah"
Mr. Gates: "Yeah, we're working really hard our company is dedicated...blah"
When the truth is that majority of his company's work is outsourced to el-cheapo Indian companies whose employees (the actual people behind Gates' success) work for a 20,000 rupees/month salary.
Ultimately, Americans rule. Why? Because they have that aggression we lack. The American social system is no different from that of ours. Yeah ours!. Only that they keep their roads clean and use toilet papers. You still have social inequality in the form of racism; class differentiation etc. The point here is that with strong economy, strong social system follows, but given the current situation of India's secular state, even strong economy can't come to India's rescue. Forget economy for a change. Let's reform the way we treat people outside our families. Good things will then follow.

But the next time a guy stares at you, don't just give him a "Ghar pe maa behen nahi hai kya". Give him your tightest slap ever! Now that's what I call aggression. Hee Hee.

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Answer 2

The problem here is balance. What we need is a good strong economy that supports a strong social system. Sweden has a good model that could and should be incorporated into America. You can not however, support a disproportionately strong social structure for very long. SO Balance is the key.

Answer 3

Society is divided into religions, caste and creed. These are further sub-divided. Everyone should be given freedom to practise any religion. Tolerance towards opposite religions will ensure a strong social system and brotherhood among people. Strong economy does not eradicate poverty. There will be economic disparity that will lead to hatred and violence. But for survival a strong economy is the needed. But growth of economy without a strong social system is dangerous.

Answer 4

It is important for me that the country has a strong social system. A strong society is made of morally upright and responsible citizens. Not only will strong economy result, it will also be a happy, long-lasting and beautiful country to belong to.

Answer 5

yes it is an important part of a country to have a strong economy or a proper social system as with a planned and economically good economy tree will always peace and order maintained in that con try .so the law sh old pass such laws which will increase peace and and an planned economy will developed at fast and strong rate.agreement sh old try to Rome social events like dowry and caste system etc. .as these evils doe as not allow an economy to progress.

Answer 6

Strong economy is the offspring of strong social system and not vice versa, you see.And social systems are "sui generis" which can not be something that can be craved or aimed at. It 's simply unique and that's it. Whereas the strong economy can be aimed at or can be a policy of a social system. As somebody said there should be a balance striking the both towards achieving a welfare state.

Answer 7

A strong economy.

Answer 8

In my humble opinion , it is other way around. A strong social system would result in strong economy.

Answer 9

both. we need strong economy and strong social system but the social system is breaking done because of modern leaving standards

Answer 10

A few months ago on a trip to Mumbai, I made it a point to visit Dalal St. There I see this huge structure, the Bombay Stock Exchange. After a short gape, looking up, I turned down to take a look around the street. There I see, people moving about in a way identical to what's a common sight in a vegetable market (No, not Reliance Fresh, but the typical "sabzi mandi"). New Fund Offer (NFO) forms are sold on wheelers, just the way the "sabzi wala" goes around in your colony selling veggies.

Okay. Talking business...An entity with booming economy needn't have a strong social system and vice-versa. Sure 80% of all the electronic goods you possess, I bet, are either made in China or Taiwan (SAR). But do you have any idea of what the Chinese social structure is like? It's utter chaos. People have a bad standard of living, their roads and urban administration is no better than what it is in India, add to it the fact that China has a Communist administration. The "Made in China" stuff we see around us is made by ordinary Chinese people who work for people who've exploited the loopholes of Chinese administration to themselves become rich. So the section of Chinese society that is into manufacturing is rich and this is way accelerates its economy and gives us the impression of China being rich. True, China is rich, but you somehow don't see signs of richness in everyone's face. China and India infamously top the World Bank surveyors' lists of being most corrupted. Same as in India. Mumbai is an amazing city when just hundred kilometres away, farmers are fighting for their lands forcibily being snatched by the Government and "Land Sharks". In one word, India is rich but only when you see Mumbai, Delhi etc and wear a blindfold everywhere else you go.

For countries like ours to develop a "Strong Social System" is like getting lost in Sahara with a sweater on. It simply is impossible. With reservations, Godhra, etc., we're unable to mantain the sanctity of being secular forget "Strong Soc.....crap"

We've entred an era of time where nations have begun competing in business just as how Marwadi cloth merchants do with their shops right beside each other. This is a war, only we don't have casualities. We have people dying though. People have forgotten everything: environment, exploitation of labor, morality etc. Make more, sell more.

Now that you've mentioned Sweden, let me pour bile. Sweden is an elder poplulation meaning that there are more people above the age of 40 than those below it. Excessive "brain drain" to US and UK has left the Swedes with more people counting their days. Their population growth rate is just enough to balance the mortality:natality ratio. For the Swedish government to manage a social system is as easy as what managing a class of school children for a teacher is. And by the way, what advantage do you see the Swedes having over other EU nations like Germany and Switzerland? "Annda".

We could choose to be aggresive, like China or easy going like Sweden (or Bihar...Hee Hee). The call for the hour is aggression. Aggression in business, in whatever we do. It doesn't mean the kind of aggression that breaks the barriers of morality, but being able to give it our everything and let spirituality take over.

Yes Spirituality. You see, Indians are anthropomorphic. For every material thing is associated something spiritual:
Ramu Seth: "Toh bhai, bahut tarakki kar rahe ho?"
Shamu Seth: "Bas upar wale ki meherbani."
Where "B" has really achieved something out of hard work. You don't see this in the Americans: