2007-02-23 23:19:14 · 20 answers · asked by Arthur 1 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
I agree you should stop adding things to Revelations:
6 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,
The Book of Mormon was fortold by Ezekiel:
16 Moreover, thou son of man, take thee one stick, and write upon it, For Judah, and for the children of Israel his companions: then take another stick, and write upon it, For Joseph, the stick of Ephraim, and for all the house of Israel his companions:
17 And join them one to another into one stick; and they shall become one in thine hand.
18 ¶ And when the children of thy people shall speak unto thee, saying, Wilt thou not shew us awhat thou meanest by these?
19 Say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will take the stick of Joseph, which is in the hand of Ephraim, and the tribes of Israel his fellows, and will put them with him, even with the stick of Judah, and make them one stick, and they shall be one in mine hand.
20 ¶ And the sticks whereon thou writest shall be in thine hand before their eyes.
6 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,
2007-02-26 07:45:35 · answer #1 · answered by Isolde 7 · 2⤊ 0⤋
This is going to drive some people almost insane because I say it...
#1) I am a Baptist. I believe in God and the Bible.
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You need to understand how the Bible was ASSEMBLED. It is a compilation of the writings of many people. Originally NONE of the New Testament was connected into any one "book" It was a bunch of "seemingly random scrolls" that were being passed around.
Revelation, the last book in the Bible as accepted by Protestants and Catholics is NOT as old as some other "books" within the Bible.
Therefore, if the passage in Revelation that says "Do not add to this book" refers to the total book we call the Bible, the WHOLE BIBLE is WRONG.
That passage is referring ONLY to the 'Revelation according to John"
Therefore, (even though I personally don't believe in the Book of Mormon being inspired...) you can't use that passage out of Revelation to discredit the Book of Mormon.
There are enough other problems with the Book of Mormon to discredit it as acceptable for addition to the Bible.
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Note:
The very reference numbers and chapter divisions in the modern Bible are ALL additions.
The "verse numbers" were added as translator's passage references. The Bible is the only known book where these numbers got left in after translation.
Some of the chapter difisions are not quite correct. If you read aloud about 3 verses before any chapter division and carry on nonstop into the next chapter, you will find at least 5 places where the chapter divisions are just plain WRONG.
The original scrolls did not have those divisions at all...
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Here's another good one...
If the passage in Dueteronomy is to be taken litterally from the date it is written... then NO part of the Bible written after Moses died is valid.
2007-02-23 23:30:40 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 3⤊ 0⤋
The Bible has a little bit of factual history in it, otherwise it is a collection of tall tales and mythology.
The Book of Mormon is completely fictional.
Even if the Bible was true though, the verse in Revelation that says not to add to this book was not even the last part of the New testament to be written, so your argument is completely invalid.
2007-02-24 21:42:53 · answer #3 · answered by bigjarom 4 · 0⤊ 1⤋
It is talking about not adding to the book of Revelations.
Deuteronomy 4:2
2 Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.
Indeed, Deuteronomy says not to add anything... and there is more in the Bible after Deuteronomy, is there not? No one picks on that because there is more of the Bible after Deuteronomy. And also, notice the threats in that verse, that there will be plagues... what percentage of the Mormons you know suffer from plagues?
*** EDIT: Mia R has it right.
And Buzz S... what have I told you about our beliefs on salvation? We believe that if you have lived worthily and your works are good enough, then you are saved by grace... you aren't saved by works alone.
2007-02-26 07:41:59 · answer #4 · answered by Beast8981 5 · 2⤊ 0⤋
Paul Y is a very unkind person. I hope he changes his heart and stops hating others just because he believes he is right. I am not a Mormon and won't answer for them. I am not sure why they believe in using that book. I will say the Fred gave a very accurate Bible history and is correct about the context of the verse in Revelation.
2007-02-23 23:38:11 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
Revelation 22: 18-19 "For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book."
The phrases "the prophecy of this book," "the book of this prophecy," and "this book" refer only to the book of Revelation. At the time John recorded those words, the Bible did not exist; there were only separate scrolls for each book. The first bound Bibles do not appear until the fourth century A.D. Some of the earliest Bible manuscripts do not end with the book of Revelation
and, in fact, some of them don't even include that book and omit other New Testament books as well.
Moreover, similar warnings are found in earlier Bible books. For example, in Deuteronomy 4:2, we read, "Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the Lord your God which I command you" (see also Deuteronomy 12:12). While mortals are forbidden to add to the divine word, the Lord himself is not bound by such restrictions. God's word is revealed through prophets, and it is through prophets that he has always added to his own word. Thus, we read that, when the king had burned the words written by Jeremiah (Jeremiah 36:1-4,
23), the Lord commanded him to restore these words (Jeremiah 36:27-28). "Then took Jeremiah another roll, and gave it to Baruch the scribe, the son of Neriah; who wrote therein from the mouth of Jeremiah all the words of the book which
Jehoiakim king of Judah had burned in the fire: and there were added besides unto them many like words" (Jeremiah 36:32).
2007-02-23 23:26:20 · answer #6 · answered by Mia R 1 · 4⤊ 0⤋
talk to the missionaries, instead of asking people who do not know or understand the beliefs. if you read the whole bible in deuteronimy it also says there you cant add to the bible, and that is not at the end of the bible. what it means is that not just anyone can add to it, without the Lords permission. so you cant just make stuff up and call it scripture. The Lord can add or take away whatever he likes really
2007-02-23 23:25:16 · answer #7 · answered by prettylittlegardenfairy 3 · 3⤊ 1⤋
A careful reading of each of these admonitions makes it clear that man is not to make changes in the revelations of the Lord: man is not to add to or take from the words of God. There is no indication or intimation that God could not, or would not, add to or take from; nor would any reasonable person with a belief in the divine powers of God consciously believe that God would be so restricted. Without question he would have the right and power to give additional revelation for the guidance of his children in any age and to add additional scripture.
2007-02-23 23:38:26 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 5⤊ 0⤋
The Mormons tell you that "this book" means the Book of Revelation -not the Bible. Of course, I don't believe that, but that is their answer.
People believe the church because the things that they are told are sanitized and beautifully wrapped by spin doctors before the elders get them.
Another thing is the desire to do something to get salvation. This has been a hurdle that allows people to join the JW's since they earn their salvation by knocking on doors. Mormons believe that they are saved after all they do (read salvation by works.) We have a hard time knowing there is nothing that we can do to gain salvation
2007-02-25 15:01:52 · answer #9 · answered by Buzz s 6 · 0⤊ 3⤋
We beleive the Book of mormon to be the word of God. We also beleive the Bible to be the word of God, as far as it is translated correctly. We are not "adding" to the Bible, they are 2 seperate books. The Book of Mormon is just another testemant of Jesus Christ.
2007-02-27 12:20:38 · answer #10 · answered by cdaae663 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
The Book of Mormon is NOT scripture, but the pointless rants of a lunatic. You are quite correct, we are not to add to, or take away anything in the Bible.
2007-02-23 23:23:53 · answer #11 · answered by C J 6 · 2⤊ 2⤋