The word beget or begotten is an event and act. Chrsitians believe that Jesus is god and begotten son. This word gives an clear indication that Jesus came into existense as an event and act of begetting. Which also means that before this event Jesus was non-existent. Can someone be begotten as well as eternal? I know you would be having lots of expanation of word begotten, but again that expanation would be against the direct meaning of begotten. Begotten is a clear english word which has a clear meaning. If some dictionary add another meaning to begotten to accomodate christianity; doesn't really legitimise using word begotten.
Clear and honest answer would be appreciated.
2007-02-23
17:17:44
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Can eternal God be target of event and progress? doesn't it make God was imperfect?
2007-02-23
17:42:42 ·
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Instead of just quoting bible or writing your creead, I want someone to really answer my question.
2007-02-23
18:03:10 ·
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That is a good question for those who believe that Jesus is God but this isn't the case Jesus didn't say he was God,he himself said he is God's son, and not God!(John10:36) and at the baptism of Jesus. God also confirmed this,when he said that Jesus is his son the beloved whom he has approved (Matthew3:16,17) If Jesus really was God why would he mislead people into thinking he was God's Son if he was in reality God?Jesus would not lie about it would he? Also if he was part of any trinity this would be clearly explained in the Bible, but it is not the Bible shows only that Jesus and God are two seperate and distinct persons! No trinity is mentioned there or explained anywhere, so this belief is unscriptural and those teaching it and or believing it are not teaching or believing the truth! becaust the one who is misleading the world is not Jesus it is Jesus' enemy and the worst enemy of humans also(2Corinthians 4:4) The word begotten you have already explained sufficiently and clearly exactly as it is to be taken before this event just like you say Jesus did not exist before he was created by God, so he was not eternal but he had a beginning, this also shows that Jesus is not God because God has no beginning!
2007-02-23 18:40:15
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answered by I speak Truth 6
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Okay I learned this when I learned Greek last year.... "Begotten" in the Greek is accurately translated as begotten, it is not a mistranslation, I grant that, but it is a "better" translation to say "unique", which was one of the meanings of the original Greek word. Thus when it is used (i.e. John 3:16) is is talking about how Jesus is set apart and unique. We are all children of God, in short, sons of God, but he was the only "begotten" (i.e. unique) Son of God................ Either "begotten" or "unique" is a fine translation, but regardless the point is that Jesus is far different than us. He is very unique and very special - set apart.
"what about the one whom the Father set apart as his very own and sent into the world?" John 10:36
I know it seems strange in the English, I thought so too, but that is just one reason why the Greek is far more reliable than the English. You can misinterpret the English meaning but the Greek is irrefutable. The writer meant the uniqueness of Christ.
2007-02-24 01:27:59
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answered by Anonymous
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You are refering to born in the worldly sense,but this is the spiritual sense. The word dead in the Bible is used in both senses too.(Plus, second death)
As the son, he must come from the father as we all were created, but that doesn't make us any less of God, but a new generation.
Another Analogy: If a fish jumps out of the sea, he is still of the sea, his domain of creation.
Timewise: Before Abraham was, I am.Always of the sea, eternal.
And so are we.
re:shaolot Surely he was greater than us as he said John the Baptist was greater than any other, but we have the same makeup and potential, These and greater things shall ye do.
2007-02-24 01:33:56
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answered by Anonymous
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Jesus always was, He was the Word that created the earth and universe. Then He was begotten as a man, from spirit to man
2007-02-24 01:22:27
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answered by ? 4
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The key to your question requirest going back to earlier translations. The word "begotten" doesn't have any modern day use, but any context considerations require going back to earlier translations and what the english language was like when the word was first put to print in the bible. Also, how do other languages translate it, and what was it in the various Greek Subt. Versions (prior to its latin translation).
2007-02-24 01:24:57
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answered by Pint 4
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It's just another catch-phrase, like "Our Father, who art in Heaven", "the lamb of God", and "Help, I've fallen, and I can't get up". I doubt many Christians really understand what it means to be "begotten" except that's what Jesus is.
2007-02-24 01:23:08
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answered by godlessinaz 3
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The only-begotten Son of God, the only Son produced by Jehovah alone. This Son is the firstborn of all creation. By means of him all other things in heaven and on earth were created. He is the second-greatest personage in the universe. It is this Son whom Jehovah sent to the earth to give his life as a ransom for mankind, thus opening the way to eternal life for those of Adam’s offspring who would exercise faith. This same Son, restored to heavenly glory, now rules as King, with authority to destroy all the wicked and to carry out his Father’s original purpose for the earth. The Hebrew form of the name Jesus means “Jehovah Is Salvation”; Christ is the equivalent of the Hebrew Ma·shi′ach (Messiah), meaning “Anointed One.”
Since Jehovah is eternal and had no beginning the Word’s being with God from “the beginning” must here refer to the beginning of Jehovah’s creative works. This is confirmed by other texts identifying Jesus as “the firstborn of all creation,” “the beginning of the creation by God.” (Col 1:15; Re 1:1; 3:14) Thus the Scriptures identify the Word (Jesus in his prehuman existence) as God’s first creation, his firstborn Son.
That Jehovah was truly the Father or Life-Giver to this firstborn Son and, hence, that this Son was actually a creature of God is evident from Jesus’ own statements. He pointed to God as the Source of his life, saying, “I live because of the Father.” According to the context, this meant that his life resulted from or was caused by his Father, even as the gaining of life by dying men would result from their faith in Jesus’ ransom sacrifice.
If the estimates of modern-day scientists as to the age of the physical universe are anywhere near correct, Jesus’ existence as a spirit creature began thousands of millions of years prior to the creation of the first human. This firstborn spirit Son was used by his Father in the creation of all other things. (Joh 1:3; Col 1:16, 17) This would include the millions of other spirit sons of Jehovah God’s heavenly family, as well as the physical universe and the creatures originally produced within it. Logically, it was to this firstborn Son that Jehovah said: “Let us make man in our image, according to our likeness.” All these other created things were not only created “through him” but also “for him,” as God’s Firstborn and the “heir of all things.”
The Son’s share in the creative works, however, did not make him a co-Creator with his Father. The power for creation came from God through his holy spirit, or active force. And since Jehovah is the Source of all life, all animate creation, visible and invisible, owes its life to him. Rather than a co-Creator, then, the Son was the agent or instrumentality through whom Jehovah, the Creator, worked. Jesus himself credited God with the creation, as do all the Scriptures.
2007-02-24 01:56:13
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answered by BJ 7
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